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Post by homeschooldad on Jun 14, 2023 13:08:04 GMT
remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/6666-francis-effect-youth-take-more-interest-in-tlm-since-traditionis-custodesMight be that the Church could consider this the work of the Holy Ghost, free up the older liturgy, and let what comes of that, just happen.
Some things can't be reduced to logic or sterile arguments as to why the Novus Ordo should be preferred over the Traditional Latin Mass. There may be a power in this liturgy that no one realizes, for reasons that no one quite understands. Applying the "Gamaliel principle" --- "if it is of God, let it be" --- would be more in order here. The Church can, and does, revisit decisions it has made, and change course if the results aren't quite what one would have expected. Sometimes bad decisions can be made with the best of intentions, with the best internal logic and justification, and whenever things don't turn out as planned, whoever made those decisions, should be able to admit it. To use a homely secular example, look at what happened when the Coca-Cola company revised its formula and introduced a "New Coke". It failed miserably. Did some people like the New Coke better? No doubt. But for many, many more, their reaction was quite different. Did Coca-Cola dig in its heels, say "we've changed it, and everyone should like it"? Of course not. They restored the old Coke. Another example, Anheuser-Busch thought it would be a good idea to allow a transgendered man to become a spokes-"woman" for Bud Light. The reaction was quite violent. They ruined Bud Light as a brand.
There's a lesson to be learned here.
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Post by theguvnor on Jun 14, 2023 13:33:26 GMT
I find the whole issue with Bud Light ridiculous. I wouldn't drink the stuff anyway, but that's because I've tried it and found it not to my taste. But I view Dylan Mulvaney as a remarkably good satirist, to be honest. Anyone getting that over-excited about the whole issue is satirizing themselves. People shooting boxes of beer and foolishness of that sort were eye-wateringly funny.
With regards to the Latin Mass, I didn't feel anything need to be said really. Matters were fine as they were, those who wished to attend it would and those who did not did not. In the cases in some European countries where some fringe groups tried to weaponize TLM to service somewhat dubious racial and social outlooks that could have been handled at a local level.
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Post by farronwolf on Jun 14, 2023 14:43:17 GMT
The Coca Cola thing was a flop. They fixed it and moved on, it is nothing like the Bud Light thing. Bud light didn't change the taste of their product. If someone liked it before the ad, they would certainly still like it after the ad. My buddies and I were discussing this over the weekend. Most of the people who were vocal about the Bud Light deal probably never even saw the ad, they like so many people heard about it through another source and instantly jumped on the protest bandwagon because they thought that was the thing to do. Fairly simple minded in my view, but hey, if folks want to protest about beer, so be it. Anheuser-Busch will get past this, and in a year or two no one will remember the event took place. Simply look at the NFL, when the Kapernick thing started, so many people said, I'm never watching the NFL again. Yet today, their viewership and revenue is higher than ever.
So I am not sure what lesson there is to learn from Coca Cola, Bud Light or even the NFL, other than if we listen to those who were discontent at the time, we find out they were wrong in the long run.
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Post by theguvnor on Jun 14, 2023 14:51:50 GMT
It seems a great deal of fuss over nothing. The proverbial 'tempest in a teapot.' You are quite right, in a year people will not remember it. In five or ten years people will be talking about it as one of those forgotten controversies of a past era. In twenty years it will be the answer to a question about trivia.
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Post by ralfy on Jun 15, 2023 5:14:11 GMT
The main driver of the Bud Light issue is ESG scoring, i.e., more CSR means higher scores, and thus better investment opportunities.
It's similar in this case, and thus ironic: the use of the form of the liturgy to politicize.
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