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Post by homeschooldad on Aug 17, 2023 0:04:34 GMT
www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/us/new-jersey-catholic-school-premarital-sex-firing/index.htmlVery pleased to know this. (And the Archdiocese of Newark, mirabile dictu.) My son's former Catholic [sic] school had at least one teacher (and possibly more) who was "shacked up". "But, but, but, HSD... that doesn't mean they were having sex!"Kind of a naive objection if you ask me, but be that as it might, there's still such a thing as scandal. (In all fairness, they did later get married.)
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Post by tisbearself on Aug 17, 2023 1:32:48 GMT
What gets me is how this woman spent about 9 years of her life fighting in court over a job that expected her to do the work of two teachers, paid peanuts, and that she probably didn’t even need based on the photos of her lifestyle with her boyfriend (he might be her husband now, I’m not sure) and their multiple kids.
This was all about getting back at the principal who wouldn’t give her a raise and then fired her when she announced her lifestyle.
Maybe she thought she would get a big judgment or settlement.
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Post by Lost Sheep on Aug 30, 2023 23:49:17 GMT
It isn't rocket science. She signed a contract. She violated the terms of that contract. She got fired. Plain and simple.
It happens all the time in the secular world. This is no different.
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Post by tisbearself on Aug 31, 2023 14:03:30 GMT
It isn't rocket science. She signed a contract. She violated the terms of that contract. She got fired. Plain and simple. It happens all the time in the secular world. This is no different. I've said this a million times. I work with contracts all day, and if one party materially breaches, the other party generally has a right to end the engagement and walk away. Yet I have run into a lot of other Catholics who think the Church should throw the law of contracts out the window and bend over backwards to accommodate the teacher, even when it's clearly not a case of a teacher who was SA'ed, a teacher who made a one-time mistake, or a teacher in need of financial support. I really don't get it, but fortunately the courts have a better understanding. |
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Post by blackforest on Sept 1, 2023 0:00:11 GMT
www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/us/new-jersey-catholic-school-premarital-sex-firing/index.htmlVery pleased to know this. (And the Archdiocese of Newark, mirabile dictu.) My son's former Catholic [sic] school had at least one teacher (and possibly more) who was "shacked up". "But, but, but, HSD... that doesn't mean they were having sex!"Kind of a naive objection if you ask me, but be that as it might, there's still such a thing as scandal. (In all fairness, they did later get married.) First, thanks for inviting me here . . . or at least reminding me of my largely inactive account, lol! 
I think that from a legal and religious freedom perspective, this could be good news. Religious freedom protects us all, including atheists, even teachings and practices the we may frown upon.
As I believe we discussed elsewhere, I'd say that this school was more violating Church teaching than enforcing it. Being pregnant, single, and asking for better working conditions all made this woman vulnerable. Church teaching has very specific mandates as to how to treat a woman in her situation. Firing her may have worked for moral posturing but did nothing to uphold their fundamental and theological obligations to her. In fact, the Church's definition of scandal is so broad that the school's treatment of this woman could readily fall under it. |
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Post by homeschooldad on Sept 1, 2023 0:23:37 GMT
www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/us/new-jersey-catholic-school-premarital-sex-firing/index.htmlVery pleased to know this. (And the Archdiocese of Newark, mirabile dictu.) My son's former Catholic [sic] school had at least one teacher (and possibly more) who was "shacked up". "But, but, but, HSD... that doesn't mean they were having sex!"Kind of a naive objection if you ask me, but be that as it might, there's still such a thing as scandal. (In all fairness, they did later get married.) First, thanks for inviting me here . . . or at least reminding me of my largely inactive account, lol!
I think that from a legal and religious freedom perspective, this could be good news. Religious freedom protects us all, including atheists, even teachings and practices the we may frown upon.
As I believe we discussed elsewhere, I'd say that this school was more violating Church teaching than enforcing it. Being pregnant, single, and asking for better working conditions all made this woman vulnerable. Church teaching has very specific mandates as to how to treat a woman in her situation. Firing her may have worked for moral posturing but did nothing to uphold their fundamental and theological obligations to her. In fact, the Church's definition of scandal is so broad that the school's treatment of this woman could readily fall under it. You make some very good points here. Welcome aboard! |
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