Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2023 20:19:50 GMT
Pope Francis' (perfectly reasonable) comments about Russia delivered to the all-Russian Conference of Catholic Youth last week provoked a storm in Ukraine.
Some Ukrainians who support the Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU) are calling for a ban on the activities of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and the Roman Catholic Church in Ukraine. Iryna Farion, the infamous nationalist politician (former member of the CPSU who hid the fact for years before she could no longer hide it) said that not only is the Pope an enemy of Ukraine, but also His Beatitude Sviatoslav Shevchuk, head of the UGCC.
One online meme circulating shows Pope Francis depicted with a Z necklace instead of a pectoral cross.
One young woman, an activist for the persecuted Ukrainian Orthodox Church, recalled that just last week, UGCC members were openly persecuting the annual procession in honour of the Mother of God, bullying and abusing the participants just because they belong to the UOC. She said, however, that she feels no ill will towards Greek Catholics even as they themselves are possibly next on the list of those to be persecuted, because she is a Christian, and holding such resentments is unjust. It is worth noting that the worst persecution of the UOC has taken place, shamefully, in regions where our own Church predominates.
Fr Grischuk of the OCU stated that:
1) Pope Francis "gave a Dove Peace award to Putler" (no idea what he is talking about here - Pope Francis never gave an award to Putin).
2) after the invasion of Ukraine Pope Francis kissed the panagia of Metropolitan Anthony of the Russian Orthodox Church (true - I don't see the problem, it's called ecumenism).
3) that Pope Francis urged Western countries not to send weapons to Ukraine (false - he merely suggested that flooding the country with weapons probably isn't a good idea).
4) that Pope Francis referred to Daria Dugina, the murdered daughter of Russian propagandist Alexander Dugin, as an "innocent victim" (true - but the daughter is not accountable for the sins of her father).
5) that the Pope said we should stop fretting about Ukraine and worry instead about suffering in the Middle East (false, it was never either / or).
6) that Pope Francis never called the invasion of Ukraine 'aggression' but speaks of it in terms of a natural disaster with undeterminable causes (false, Pope Francis may not have named Putin but he always said there was an aggressor and a victim).
7) that Pope Francis had a Russian and a Ukrainian carry the Cross together on Good Friday (true, it was meant to be a sign of reconciliation).
So, in other words, just as they first came for the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, now they want to ban the Catholic Church. Even though the Catholic Church was at the forefront of Ukrainian national identity and there likely would be no Ukraine if it were not for the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church?
Some Ukrainians who support the Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU) are calling for a ban on the activities of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and the Roman Catholic Church in Ukraine. Iryna Farion, the infamous nationalist politician (former member of the CPSU who hid the fact for years before she could no longer hide it) said that not only is the Pope an enemy of Ukraine, but also His Beatitude Sviatoslav Shevchuk, head of the UGCC.
One online meme circulating shows Pope Francis depicted with a Z necklace instead of a pectoral cross.
One young woman, an activist for the persecuted Ukrainian Orthodox Church, recalled that just last week, UGCC members were openly persecuting the annual procession in honour of the Mother of God, bullying and abusing the participants just because they belong to the UOC. She said, however, that she feels no ill will towards Greek Catholics even as they themselves are possibly next on the list of those to be persecuted, because she is a Christian, and holding such resentments is unjust. It is worth noting that the worst persecution of the UOC has taken place, shamefully, in regions where our own Church predominates.
Fr Grischuk of the OCU stated that:
1) Pope Francis "gave a Dove Peace award to Putler" (no idea what he is talking about here - Pope Francis never gave an award to Putin).
2) after the invasion of Ukraine Pope Francis kissed the panagia of Metropolitan Anthony of the Russian Orthodox Church (true - I don't see the problem, it's called ecumenism).
3) that Pope Francis urged Western countries not to send weapons to Ukraine (false - he merely suggested that flooding the country with weapons probably isn't a good idea).
4) that Pope Francis referred to Daria Dugina, the murdered daughter of Russian propagandist Alexander Dugin, as an "innocent victim" (true - but the daughter is not accountable for the sins of her father).
5) that the Pope said we should stop fretting about Ukraine and worry instead about suffering in the Middle East (false, it was never either / or).
6) that Pope Francis never called the invasion of Ukraine 'aggression' but speaks of it in terms of a natural disaster with undeterminable causes (false, Pope Francis may not have named Putin but he always said there was an aggressor and a victim).
7) that Pope Francis had a Russian and a Ukrainian carry the Cross together on Good Friday (true, it was meant to be a sign of reconciliation).
So, in other words, just as they first came for the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, now they want to ban the Catholic Church. Even though the Catholic Church was at the forefront of Ukrainian national identity and there likely would be no Ukraine if it were not for the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church?