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Post by homeschooldad on Sept 6, 2023 4:57:17 GMT
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bluekumul
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Post by bluekumul on Sept 6, 2023 13:37:50 GMT
And this is a "pro-LGBT" priest! Does he realize what the Koran says about homosexuality? skepticsannotatedbible.com/all/gay_list.htmlIf Mohammed was white, he would be endlessly attacked and ridiculed by the pro-gay crowd. And Sheikh Mahairi is probably in agreement with his prophet.
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Post by homeschooldad on Sept 6, 2023 16:57:43 GMT
And this is a "pro-LGBT" priest! Does he realize what the Koran says about homosexuality? skepticsannotatedbible.com/all/gay_list.htmlIf Mohammed was white, he would be endlessly attacked and ridiculed by the pro-gay crowd. And Sheikh Mahairi is probably in agreement with his prophet. I'm just wondering if there is anyone, anywhere, among ostensibly orthodox Catholics, who would say "this is okay, because...". Another example of "this is the Spirit moving", or something like that.
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Post by bluekumul on Sept 6, 2023 17:39:55 GMT
And this is a "pro-LGBT" priest! Does he realize what the Koran says about homosexuality? skepticsannotatedbible.com/all/gay_list.htmlIf Mohammed was white, he would be endlessly attacked and ridiculed by the pro-gay crowd. And Sheikh Mahairi is probably in agreement with his prophet. I'm just wondering if there is anyone, anywhere, among ostensibly orthodox Catholics, who would say "this is okay, because...". Another example of "this is the Spirit moving", or something like that. I don't get your post. Are you suggesting that some "orthodox" Catholics might say the sheikh receiving communion is OK because he opposes homosexuality? I personally think homosexuality is wrong, but Islamic attitudes like death penalty for gay sex go too far.
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Post by homeschooldad on Sept 6, 2023 20:14:38 GMT
I'm just wondering if there is anyone, anywhere, among ostensibly orthodox Catholics, who would say "this is okay, because...". Another example of "this is the Spirit moving", or something like that. I don't get your post. Are you suggesting that some "orthodox" Catholics might say the sheikh receiving communion is OK because he opposes homosexuality? I personally think homosexuality is wrong, but Islamic attitudes like death penalty for gay sex go too far. No, there are some, who regard themselves as entirely orthodox in the Faith, who are okay with anything that is done in the modern-day Church, if it comes from a member of the hierarchy, as long as it fits a progressive agenda. They will say that such prelates have "discernment" and that it is the work of "the Spirit". Anything that "moves forward", even if some are troubled by it, is a good thing, and those who are troubled by it "lack discernment".
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Post by theguvnor on Sept 6, 2023 21:31:00 GMT
This is actually deeply troubling as this passage bothered me:
Steinmetz said that Mahairi was friends with the late Albano Cavallin, a former archbishop of Londrina, who had explained to the Muslim leader many years ago that "the Eucharist is the body of Jesus, who is considered to be a prophet of Islam."
The Sheikh may have been led into committing one of the major sins of his own faith due to this explanation. Yes, Christ is a major prophet in Islam (in fact Mary appears more in the Q'uran than the Bible) but he is not considered divine and associating the human with the divine is to engage in the sin of Shirk for a Muslim. So letting the Sheikh receive may look like a friendly gesture but is likely to cause more harm than good if repeated.
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Post by tisbearself on Sept 8, 2023 17:12:13 GMT
It appears that both the Sheik and the Archbishop acted against the teachings of their respective religions, for whatever reason. Let’s hope that they do not repeat the error.
I wondered if the Sheik approached the communion station expecting perhaps a blessing (if he was friendly with Cardinals and did interfaith stuff, this likely was not his first ever Mass) and was taken aback when handed a Eucharist instead, which he then did not consume but carried back to the pew (maybe thinking he could return it later) but then, not wishing to give further offense, consumed in the pew.
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