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Post by homeschooldad on Dec 5, 2023 17:45:13 GMT
This just occurred to me. The feast of the Immaculate Conception (Holy Day of Obligation) will fall this year on a Friday. So if one normally observes the traditional practice of Friday abstinence, this day is an exception.
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Post by homeschooldad on Dec 8, 2023 15:57:03 GMT
And the bacon I had with breakfast this morning was delicious. A rare Friday treat.
It provided a good teachable moment for my son, as to how the Church can bind and loose its own disciplinary laws.
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Post by tth1 on Dec 9, 2023 18:45:51 GMT
This just occurred to me. The feast of the Immaculate Conception (Holy Day of Obligation) will fall this year on a Friday. So if one normally observes the traditional practice of Friday abstinence, this day is an exception. It was the Immaculate Conception yesterday but, yes, the Friday penance is relaxed if the day is a solemnity. Glad you enjoyed your bacon. |
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Post by homeschooldad on Dec 9, 2023 22:26:49 GMT
This just occurred to me. The feast of the Immaculate Conception (Holy Day of Obligation) will fall this year on a Friday. So if one normally observes the traditional practice of Friday abstinence, this day is an exception. It was the Immaculate Conception yesterday but, yes, the Friday penance is relaxed if the day is a solemnity. Glad you enjoyed your bacon. Yes, that's what I said, feast, solemnity, I can never keep that stuff straight. I had a hamburger for lunch, but by the time dinner came along, all I wanted was a bowl of bean soup, flavored with bits of ham, and some cheese and crackers. I can't eat as much as I used to. |
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Post by tth1 on Dec 10, 2023 15:47:00 GMT
It was the Immaculate Conception yesterday but, yes, the Friday penance is relaxed if the day is a solemnity. Glad you enjoyed your bacon. Yes, that's what I said, feast, solemnity, I can never keep that stuff straight. I had a hamburger for lunch, but by the time dinner came along, all I wanted was a bowl of bean soup, flavored with bits of ham, and some cheese and crackers. I can't eat as much as I used to. Not surprising! Many, of course, use 'feast' to generically refer to any holyday. It also refers to the middle rank in the post-Vatican II calendar. Before those changes every holy day was called a feast and given a rank.
However, I wasn't commenting on what you may have called the day. In fact, I don't think I noticed. I was simply answering your question as to whether there was Friday penance or not.
I think it's just part of getting older, i.e. not being able to eat as much. I am the same. Unfortunately, I find people giving me portions I cannot eat and then I feel awkward and wasteful not eating it all.
This year for the first time since before the [profane adjective] Pandemic we are having Christmas lunch at my sister's. I know I'll be presented with more food than a small nation can get through and may not want to eat again until 2024.
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Post by tisbearself on Dec 10, 2023 18:06:50 GMT
It is a shame that we usually can't just take plates of food to hungry people. Even places like shelters and soup kitchens usually have strict limits on what they will accept. Giving out cooked food to street people is also against the law in many places and often the people themselves don't even want it.
I like to bake sometimes so try to do it when there's a parish meeting or sale or something so I can take a reasonable portion for myself and then others enjoy the rest. Was happy yesterday that the 50 attendees at a meeting ate up 80 percent of the cake I made.
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Post by homeschooldad on Dec 10, 2023 20:41:30 GMT
It is a shame that we usually can't just take plates of food to hungry people. Even places like shelters and soup kitchens usually have strict limits on what they will accept. Giving out cooked food to street people is also against the law in many places and often the people themselves don't even want it. I like to bake sometimes so try to do it when there's a parish meeting or sale or something so I can take a reasonable portion for myself and then others enjoy the rest. Was happy yesterday that the 50 attendees at a meeting ate up 80 percent of the cake I made. From what I've heard anecdotally, street/homeless people are not necessarily in need of food, though oddly enough, when panhandlers beg, they say they need money for food. So I just don't know. I give what I can as the Holy Ghost moves me --- I can't help everyone --- and what they do with that money, or whether they are telling the truth about why they need it, I'll leave that between them and Almighty God. It's the starfish thing --- "it'll make a difference to this one". I'd like to see cafeterias set up, where anyone could walk in off the street and get a good, simple, nutritious meal, and just pay what they can, if anything at all. (The Sikhs get this one right.) To paraphrase AOC with her entirely sensible comment about kids getting ringworm, why does such a wealthy country have hungry people? Or homeless ones, for that matter --- in Finland, you are only homeless if you want to be, everyone is guaranteed a simple apartment home, even if they can't pay for it. Again, aside from abortion and Second Amendment rights, I'm not all that conservative. |
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Post by tisbearself on Dec 10, 2023 21:27:24 GMT
The people in US who are hungry are usually those who can't get food, even free food, for themselves because they're kids, elderly, disabled, impaired, isolated from sources of food, vulnerable, addicted, in some chaotic situation, or lack life skills to utilize assistance that's offered. There's no lack of food around and in fact a lot of the above people are not hungry enough to accept food that's not to their personal taste.
I do help the poor/ hungry from time to time in different ways, but giving them my own lunch or cooking them an extra meal or even buying them a meal generally isn't a workable way to help. Unless one happens to have a particular situation of hungry kids or elderly or whatever as your neighbor, which does happen and there are people who are essentially feeding their neighbors. During the pandemic, I had a social media friend who literally ran out of food and was online asking if anybody could bring groceries by.
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Post by tth1 on Dec 14, 2023 14:46:33 GMT
It's not unusual to find people begging outside supermarkets these days. I never give them money. I don't want to help feed their drug habit. I'll ask them if they want a drink and something to eat and if they say yes, which most do, I will buy them a hot drink and either hot food or a sandwich. If they refuse and say they want money I then say I can give the number of the local homeless shelter but I'm afraid I've no cash on me. It's a lie but I think it's better for all concerned if I say I have no cash, which actually isn't always a lie, as we pay for a lot with plastic these days, but I'd rather not say outright I'm not giving you cash. We also have a lot of foodbanks here where people can pick up free food and sometimes other household essentials. The economic situation is making life hard for many people. My wife and I are in well paid jobs but we have to be more careful than was once the case.
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Post by tisbearself on Dec 14, 2023 15:00:42 GMT
I usually don't have cash on me at all. Almost everyplace nowadays takes card or app or other contactless payment. Unless I specifically have to pay someone in cash, I don't bother to get any out of the ATM. I used to need it to play the lottery, but a couple years ago the state started offering a phone app where you can play from your phone and deposit money into your player account with a card or PayPal, so I no longer need lottery money.
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Post by tth1 on Dec 14, 2023 15:05:41 GMT
The only reason I usually have cash on me is at the supermarket you often need to pay a £1 to get a shopping trolley. I keep one in the car for that purpose. There's no way anyone's having that pound coin.
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Post by homeschooldad on Dec 14, 2023 17:35:32 GMT
I always carry a small amount of cash ($40-$60) simply because I always have done that. I rarely carry pocket change anymore. When I do receive it, it goes in the center glove box of my car or into cups or vases at home.
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Post by tth1 on Dec 15, 2023 13:49:13 GMT
I always carry a small amount of cash ($40-$60) simply because I always have done that. I rarely carry pocket change anymore. When I do receive it, it goes in the center glove box of my car or into cups or vases at home. I'm always putting change down everywhere. I bet if I did a good search and got it all together there'd be enough for an evening out. |
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Post by homeschooldad on Dec 15, 2023 18:32:15 GMT
I always carry a small amount of cash ($40-$60) simply because I always have done that. I rarely carry pocket change anymore. When I do receive it, it goes in the center glove box of my car or into cups or vases at home. I'm always putting change down everywhere. I bet if I did a good search and got it all together there'd be enough for an evening out. I'm probably in the same situation. In the US, they really need to get rid of the one-cent piece (colloquially called a "penny") and possible even the five-cent piece, just round everything to the nearest five or ten cents. |
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Post by tth1 on Dec 18, 2023 17:13:33 GMT
I'm always putting change down everywhere. I bet if I did a good search and got it all together there'd be enough for an evening out. I'm probably in the same situation. In the US, they really need to get rid of the one-cent piece (colloquially called a "penny") and possible even the five-cent piece, just round everything to the nearest five or ten cents. They do what you propose in Australia where my borther lives. He says folks complain about it. Many prices are marked $x.99 but there's no 1 cent so you can nver be givben change. If something in Oz says its $4.99 you will actually pay $5. We gets lots of loose change here in the UK in small denomination brown coins. Many refer to as shrapnel. It just ends up building up in your pockets and the next thing you have a hole worn in the pocket. Mind you cards are a problem too. I spent a few months not using my card if I could help it. I drew cash out of the bank and paid for everything in cash. It was a good exercise. I was far more aware of what I was actually spending. |
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