|
Post by MrsAngelala on Jan 14, 2021 0:36:38 GMT
My husband and I have been looking for a house for over two years. Our search area includes four towns/cities. Our budget is quite good for our area. We've looked into building via I think three different methods, four times (revisited one) -- building costs are simply out of this world. We've worn out our computers on Zillow and Redfin. And then, of course, COVID threw a wrench into the whole thing, because we live in one of those places where the uber-rich city people want to flee to. They can afford to pay any amount for any property, so even though we are quite well off for our area, we can't compete.
Our second child, first living one, was born one year ago. Now that she's walking, we absolutely MUST get out of here NOW. We can't let her go outside at our current home because of physical conditions (trash), bad and blasphemous language, domestic violence situations, etc. We recently learned our neighbors with children occasionally have a convicted pedophile stay with them (!!!). My daughter only leaves the walls of our home to enter a car sitting in the attached garage.
Last year, my husband wrote a script to comb the public records of our first-choice town and pull anything that fit our basic criteria on paper, then we drove around to every one of them to evaluate external conditions (for example, it's hilly here, so of "2 acres," sometimes only 1/4 to 1/2 acre is usable). After another unsuccessful year, he recently started cold-calling and writing letters to top homes, asking if they're considering selling. He's had one favorable answer. We've visited, and although the people are super-nice and we're still talking about it, it doesn't look like it will be a good fit.
Through all of this, God has been utterly silent. My husband and I are devout Catholics, and we've certainly been available to hear him; we each cultivate a personal as well as a sacramental relationship with Jesus. We've prayed to St. Joseph, who is also a personal patron of mine. We've received absolutely no guidance or leading, and after spending two years trying to be good stewards, I'm at a point where I'm about ready to just spend whatever it takes to get the flip out of here.
There's currently an unfinished spec house available in a very nice community, the same one we kept trying to figure out how to build in. It's much too expensive for what it is (construction costs), and much too small for our needs, so we'd have to invest a lot to finish out the basement in order for it to even work for us. We could do it, but we'd likely have to go through most or all of our savings, and the house almost certainly wouldn't be worth anywhere near what we'd have to spend. I originally refused this idea, because it's irresponsible and not a good use of the gifts God has given us. But now?
I don't know what to do. We've literally done absolutely everything else. (That script my husband wrote to find houses? Most people don't even have that skill!!) I'm the one who's been waiting patiently, the one talking my husband out of doing rash things, the one insisting that God has something for us, and he's made us wait so long that it must be something beautiful. But my daughter is walking now, and she has to be able to play outside, and we're out of time. Everyone we know is stymied. No one has anything left to say to us. It doesn't make any sense.
So what do you do when God doesn't show up? Give up and do what it looks like you have to do? Wait LONGER? What?
|
|
|
Post by MrsAngelala on Jan 14, 2021 0:39:50 GMT
Gosh, sorry, this is totally the wrong section. I'm not fluent in this forum yet. If someone can move to Family and Parenting, please do.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 16:57:38 GMT
My husband and I have been looking for a house for over two years. Our search area includes four towns/cities. Our budget is quite good for our area. We've looked into building via I think three different methods, four times (revisited one) -- building costs are simply out of this world. We've worn out our computers on Zillow and Redfin. And then, of course, COVID threw a wrench into the whole thing, because we live in one of those places where the uber-rich city people want to flee to. They can afford to pay any amount for any property, so even though we are quite well off for our area, we can't compete. Our second child, first living one, was born one year ago. Now that she's walking, we absolutely MUST get out of here NOW. We can't let her go outside at our current home because of physical conditions (trash), bad and blasphemous language, domestic violence situations, etc. We recently learned our neighbors with children occasionally have a convicted pedophile stay with them (!!!). My daughter only leaves the walls of our home to enter a car sitting in the attached garage. Last year, my husband wrote a script to comb the public records of our first-choice town and pull anything that fit our basic criteria on paper, then we drove around to every one of them to evaluate external conditions (for example, it's hilly here, so of "2 acres," sometimes only 1/4 to 1/2 acre is usable). After another unsuccessful year, he recently started cold-calling and writing letters to top homes, asking if they're considering selling. He's had one favorable answer. We've visited, and although the people are super-nice and we're still talking about it, it doesn't look like it will be a good fit. Through all of this, God has been utterly silent. My husband and I are devout Catholics, and we've certainly been available to hear him; we each cultivate a personal as well as a sacramental relationship with Jesus. We've prayed to St. Joseph, who is also a personal patron of mine. We've received absolutely no guidance or leading, and after spending two years trying to be good stewards, I'm at a point where I'm about ready to just spend whatever it takes to get the flip out of here. There's currently an unfinished spec house available in a very nice community, the same one we kept trying to figure out how to build in. It's much too expensive for what it is (construction costs), and much too small for our needs, so we'd have to invest a lot to finish out the basement in order for it to even work for us. We could do it, but we'd likely have to go through most or all of our savings, and the house almost certainly wouldn't be worth anywhere near what we'd have to spend. I originally refused this idea, because it's irresponsible and not a good use of the gifts God has given us. But now? I don't know what to do. We've literally done absolutely everything else. (That script my husband wrote to find houses? Most people don't even have that skill!!) I'm the one who's been waiting patiently, the one talking my husband out of doing rash things, the one insisting that God has something for us, and he's made us wait so long that it must be something beautiful. But my daughter is walking now, and she has to be able to play outside, and we're out of time. Everyone we know is stymied. No one has anything left to say to us. It doesn't make any sense. So what do you do when God doesn't show up? Give up and do what it looks like you have to do? Wait LONGER? What? Perhaps the problem is you ? It sounds like you might be too picky and the houses God has led you to, you've rejected. It's going to be your first house, right ? There's a lot that goes into home ownership, perhaps you need to turn down your requirements a little and seek something that is less that ideal ? Only you and your husband can answer these questions. However, I worked with young people who had attitudes that they had to find a house that was better than the one their parents raised them in. They became frustrated until they finally put themselves over their heads in debt with a house of their dreams. They eventually lost it as they couldn't swing the mortgage and all the other costs that go into home ownership. The bottom line is, don't give up on God, and trust in his will for you!
|
|
|
Post by MrsAngelala on Jan 14, 2021 17:47:35 GMT
No, this will be our second house. We have lived in our current home for over fifteen years, taking it from a tiny home in bad shape to a small home in excellent shape. We are fully aware of the investment and commitment involved in owning a house. We know how we use a house, what we need, what we want, and what the difference is.
I was going to write a further explanation, but your assumptions were inaccurate across the board. There's just too much to address.
Thank you for taking the time to give your input. God bless you.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 21:15:26 GMT
No, this will be our second house. We have lived in our current home for over fifteen years, taking it from a tiny home in bad shape to a small home in excellent shape. We are fully aware of the investment and commitment involved in owning a house. We know how we use a house, what we need, what we want, and what the difference is. I was going to write a further explanation, but your assumptions were inaccurate across the board. There's just too much to address. Thank you for taking the time to give your input. God bless you. Sorry if I offended you, but you were not specific on your living situation now. You shared your experience in looking for a new house and somehow came up with the idea that God isn't listening to your prayers because you haven't found one you like. All I'm saying is, God is listening and the problem isn't about Him
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 22:29:50 GMT
Perhaps you shouldn't be so unreasonable? Home ownership is important in our minds, but it means next to nothing to God. Our primary concern in this world is to attain Heaven. And as spouses and parents, that means we have a special obligation to do our part to bring our spouses and children with us (as much as is in our control). Does it "really" matter, at the end of the day, whether you have the comfy dream house with a two car garage and a nice yard with white picket fence and all that jazz, vs living on top of one another in a small apartment? Will God bless you less if you don't have the house you want? Or the area you want? Life is full of disappointments. Turn to God in trust with all these disappointments and God will bless you. That doesn't mean if you trust in Him, that He will give you whatever "you" want. But instead of worrying about what "you" want (you and your husband), why not take a step back and discern what it is God wants "from" you?
Forgive me if I sound standoffish. But living in California, we are living on top of one another in our tiny apartment. I dream of someday owning a home to raise my children in with space, a little garden, etc. But the reality is, it's probably not going to happen. I struggled against it at first, when I first moved out here. But God has allowed me to see the benefit of living where we do. Sure we might be crammed in our tiny apartment. But the close proximity makes it more cozy and has brought our family closer together than my own family in our modest home growing up. Granted, we don't have a choice about it lol. But God has brought many good things because of it. And while I don't encourage anyone to compare their situation to anyone else, sometimes I compare our lot to that of my sister. Her and her husband and son are on their 2nd house. Big houses, huge yards, insanely affordable, etc. Compared to that, I used to feel so frustrated that I couldn't provide something similar for my family. But then I look at where they live. Northern Illinois. Too hot to enjoy being outside in the summer, freezing cold and with and wind and ice for almost half the year (fall into winter into spring). Conversely, I live on the central coast. I'm literally a ten or twelve minute drive to a beach that virtually no one goes to. I have gone plenty of times during the beach where I am literally the only soul there. We are close to a bunch of other beaches, mountains that get snow are only an hour away (to still experience winter, but on "our" terms), the food is awesome, etc. There are SO many blessings that we have that they don't, given their area. While they spend well over half the year indoors with either the heat or air conditioning on, our family is out on adventures and living life! I have come to appreciate that so much that I wouldn't traded it for a big house in Illinois. Learn to grow where you are planted. That's my advice!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 22:32:16 GMT
And I apologize for the litany of spelling mistakes. Normally I would go back and fix them but I'm late for a class so I gotta run! God Bless!
|
|
|
Post by tth1 on Feb 3, 2021 20:30:03 GMT
Dear MrsAngelala God always answers our prayers but he knows the answer we need better than we do. Therefore, he has given you your answer and you may have not heard or understood it. I find it difficult to accept that you have not found a house in a two-year search, especially when you indicate your choice is not greatly limited by affordability. I can only assume that you are simply looking for something that almost certainly does not exist. That is, the perfect home you have in your mind's eye. May be your prayers could be less intense and you become open more to listening. God never abandons us.
I am afraid this reminds me of a joke, which some may find to be poor in taste. A man keeps fervently praying to God to ask that he win the lottery. In the end he asks God why he has never helped him win the lottery. God's reply is, 'Well buy a damn lottery ticket!' It may be a joke but I think it makes a good point.
|
|
|
Post by matthewmussolini on Feb 5, 2021 23:08:35 GMT
Hey, At least your daughter can walk. Count your blessings. Countless people have handicapped children confined to wheelchairs. Where is God for them?
Perhaps they are victim souls that God wants to suffer.
It sounds to me like you don't want to carry your cross daily and be crucified, but essentially that is what we are called to do.
The early Christians were tortured to death, their children taken from them, they were fed to wild animals, used as torches at the olympic games, and Christianity was illegal worldwide for hundreds of years.
Where was God for the early Christians. I hate to break the news to you, but being a Christian is about carrying your cross daily and being crucified with Christ.
If you take away the cross, you take away the resurrection and glory.
I think you are attached to this world and thinking too much that this earth is your home. No, your home is in God's Kingdom, and you aren't meant to find much peace and happiness in this life.
I don't mean to sound harsh, but God can seem very harsh and cruel. I don't agree with what he does and what he fails to do, but I have to worship him anyway and try to get him to change his mind on things and be more kind.
God is going to be silent and our faith is going to be tested. Without faith it is impossible to please GOd. If God was not silent, we could no longer have faith.
At least you have a spouse and a daughter. The woman I asked to marry me rejected me and I jumped off a building breaking multiple bones over it. I'll never be able to run again and I used to be a long distance runner who would run 12 miles straight. I'm in chronic pain that God will never make go away.
I still love the woman who rejected me. I tried to get with her again because I was certain she was the one God wanted me to marry. She eventually got a restraining order on me.
I still love her. I dream about her and pray for her every day. I still am convinced that I was called to marry her or no one else, and that I messed up destiny.
I'm 33 years old and want to get married but I've never met another woman I desperately wanted to marry. It looks like I'll be 40 and still be convinced I was supposed to marry Lia, still be single, still be living in a one bedroom apartment in the ghetto, begging God that I could just blow my brains out or that someone would do the favor for me.
I'm sick of living. It's likely I'll jump off another building or if I get a gun I will attempt suicide again because I don't just find life unpleasant. I passionately hate being alive, wish my mother would have aborted me, pray I die soon, and was hospitalized for wanting to blow my brains out when I was 10 years old.
I've wanted to die ever since then. I came close. It was a three story building I jumped off of and landed on concrete. I was lucky I didn't wind up in a wheelchair for life.
I spent ten weeks in a wheelchair and my urethra was clogged with scar tissue so my bladder was full for weeks. After the Urologist did surgery I was urinating blood clots larger than marbles with agonizing screams. Where was God? He's where he always is. He wants us to suffer.
Count your blessings. There are a lot of people whose lives are chronic torture who would love to have your problems. God bless!
|
|
|
Post by katy777 on Feb 7, 2021 2:21:44 GMT
God gives what you need, not want..
|
|