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Post by katy777 on May 20, 2021 23:06:54 GMT
Did ever get sit behind a middle schooler at mass with an I pad? Or see a child take off his pants and run up and down the aisle?
I have..and parents do nothing. What have you seen??
My littlest one of as a chore at mass, but over time by the age of 4 she knew she's not getting goldfish snacks toys and so on. She had to behave or time out later..perhaps because she went to religion class she knew better.
In the north there are no cry rooms. I think cry rooms are a crutch. As well as taking your child out of mass. They train you this way. Be bad and leave.
My son's were a chore too, and back then they knew they had to sit through another mass until they got it right, sometimes 2 more.
But what really helped is family prayer. Little ones look at you with awe, especially when they have thier own rosaries.
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Post by ralfy on May 21, 2021 2:10:29 GMT
Youngsters have probably been like that from the start, like tugging at a cute girl's veil from the back or using a lighter to heat up a friend's pants.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2021 7:01:47 GMT
I can't recommend Eastern Catholicism enough for families with little ones! Though, EC parishes are few and far between, sadly, in most parts of the country. We are blessed to have one near us. There is so much for the children to do to engage the Divine Liturgy. Chanting along with the parish, kneeling (on certain days of the year), prostrations, bows (so much bowing), signing themselves constantly, walking around the church to venerate holy icons and light candles, etc. The Divine Liturgy is truly living and breathing. It's phenomenal for children! Especially younger ones who have a difficult time sitting in a pew for an hour, bored out of their minds (like my children are at RC Masses, despite our best effort to get them engaged and interested). Here's a short video to give you an idea www.facebook.com/gorogmedia/videos/212856600094845 |
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Post by AgnusDei on Jun 15, 2021 23:58:12 GMT
I can't recommend Eastern Catholicism enough for families with little ones! Though, EC parishes are few and far between, sadly, in most parts of the country. We are blessed to have one near us. There is so much for the children to do to engage the Divine Liturgy. Chanting along with the parish, kneeling (on certain days of the year), prostrations, bows (so much bowing), signing themselves constantly, walking around the church to venerate holy icons and light candles, etc. The Divine Liturgy is truly living and breathing. It's phenomenal for children! Especially younger ones who have a difficult time sitting in a pew for an hour, bored out of their minds (like my children are at RC Masses, despite our best effort to get them engaged and interested). Here's a short video to give you an idea www.facebook.com/gorogmedia/videos/212856600094845Wow. It does seem busy. Strange to me also. Dominus vobiscum |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 0:58:52 GMT
AgnusDei I'll readily admit it can be a culture shock and an acquired taste. But if one gets involved at the parish enough to get a grasp of the spirituality of the Divine Liturgy, it will change you forever. I was a big fan of the TLM until I discovered the Divine Liturgy. The DL is just so....alive. In comparison the TLM (even reverent high masses) feel stifling, distant, cold, even lifeless (though I acknowledge it is equal in substance as the Divine Liturgy). It's taking my wife awhile to warm up to it. Our first experience of the Eastern Catholic Church had a priest who was very ethnic. It was a cultural shock. He seemed stand offish and that was a big turn off for my wife. Trying to follow in the missals there were a lot of greek terms, when she was used to latin. So in some parishes, it does take some effort to penetrate deeply into the spirit of it. But she was pretty anti-eastern from the very beginning, unfortunately, even without trying it. There's an unfortunate family dynamic involved (with my Mother-in-law) that makes things difficult. But she's come around and is starting to see the inestimable wealth and beauty of the Eastern tradition that was lacking in our many experiences of a litany of diocesan "novus ordo" (for lack of a better descsriptor) parishes as well as TLM only parishes (FSSP, Institute of the Good Shepherd, and SSPX).
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Post by AgnusDei on Jun 16, 2021 2:42:14 GMT
I didn’t say I didn’t like it. What is the meaning with the two candlesticks? (I’m guessing the three is the trinity, and the two is “true God, true man”) Interesting gestures too.
Went to a half Latin half english mass on the 13th. A small parish church with a younger priest. Laminated mass cards, double sided, with english and latin side-by-side. The priest had the “bling” vestments too. Very stiff and shiny. I have mixed feelings on those ever since watching ewtn programs. A simpler church, tastefully remodeled by the parishioners, altar not too fancy, and pimped-out priestwear. He also wore his square hat, and removed it for the altar portions, AND it was ad orientum.
I did not have my 1962 latin missal, but recognized most of the going’s on. (Don’t know it would have helped anyway for the readings)
Even with covid less of a threat now(I hope) the only thing I touch in the church is my butt to the pew.
Dominus vobiscum
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