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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 21:02:08 GMT
At least in some dioceses:
"When St. Patrick's Day falls on a Friday, as it does about every seven years, the Lenten rule requiring Catholics to abstain from meat on Fridays collides with the long-held tradition of eating corned beef and cabbage.
The two occasions meet this year. March 17 marks the celebration of St. Patrick -- known as the Apostle of Ireland for his years of missionary work there -- and it also is a celebration of all things Irish and even green. This March 17, since it falls on a Friday in Lenten, also is a time of penitence.
The timing has not gone unnoticed by some U.S. bishops. Before Lent even started, many of them issued dispensations for Catholics in their dioceses allowing them to eat meat on St. Patrick's Day.
The dispensation does not take Catholics totally off the hook. Many bishops advised Catholics over age 14, who are required to abstain from meat on Friday, to do an extra act of charity or penance in exchange for eating meat.
Bishop Robert C. Morlino of Madison, Wisconsin, took it a step further. In a statement, he said Catholics should also "exercise due moderation and temperance in festivities and celebrations of the memorial of St. Patrick, in keeping with the solemnity and honor that is due to so great a saint and his tireless efforts to inspire holiness in the Christian faithful."
He tempered that by also saying the day should "foster a joyful and reverent devotion to that great saint" and should also "honor the patrimony of the Irish people to whom he first preached the good news of salvation."
As of Feb. 27, the following dioceses or archdioceses had announced giving the clear for Catholics to eat meat March 17: Baltimore; New York; Milwaukee; St. Paul and Minneapolis; Atlanta and Savannah, Georgia; Omaha, Nebraska; and Jefferson City, Missouri.
The bishops primarily announced the one-day lifting of the church rule in statements posted on their diocesan websites.
Omaha Archbishop George J. Lucas granted a dispensation from the meat observance but those who eat meat on St. Patrick's Day must abstain the next day, March 18."
More: www.catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2017/corned-beef-conundrum-some-dioceses-give-st-patricks-day-dispensation.cfm
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Post by tawny on Feb 27, 2017 21:49:30 GMT
I'll be having my corned beef & cabbage on Thursday evening. I'll be keeping the fast & abstinence for the Lenten Friday. It isn't going to kill me to do so. Offering it up to God. To each his own.
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Post by sirach on Feb 27, 2017 21:56:21 GMT
I suppose it all depends on our interior motive, as St. Paul once alluded to in Romans 14:6.
"Whoever regards one day as special, does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God. And whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God."
As you said, to each their own.
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Post by pianistclare on Feb 27, 2017 23:19:28 GMT
Our dispensation came over Archdiocesan email last month.
Knights of Columbus are breathing a sign of relief across the state, LOL
If anyone is interested, Cracker Barrel makes a good Corned Beef and Cribbage. We order it twice every year. There's one by the parish.
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Post by sirach on Feb 27, 2017 23:22:00 GMT
Cribbage? That's a lovely board game, but I wouldn't want to eat it! (I know --- you type fast, LOL!)
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Post by pianistclare on Feb 27, 2017 23:25:11 GMT
No, it's a joke. That's what Joe calls it. And he's a native Irishman!
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Post by sirach on Feb 27, 2017 23:34:44 GMT
Ah, I see.
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Post by oralabora on Feb 28, 2017 1:30:09 GMT
It depends where you are. Legally at least, except I think in the Archdiocese of Ottawa, the CCCB has decreed that meatless days only apply to Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. It is what it is. I was scandalized a couple of years ago while doing a lenten retreat at the abbey, to find meat on the Friday menu. The abbey however, never makes "legal" mistakes and so I checked and sure enough... it was now allowed.
All of course are free to offer up more.
Giving up wine, potato chips and desserts is already going to be tough enough for me, and my Protestant wife is the one who decides the menu. Until the change she was always pretty good at respecting meatless Fridays, though she'd forget occasionally.
We also don't have to abstain on regular Fridays of the year and can substitute an act of penance. For me, that is vacuuming and cleaning the bathrooms, toilets and the cat's litter boxes... it has the advantage of giving us a clean house for the weekend.
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Post by Professor Q on Feb 28, 2017 5:15:07 GMT
Our home parish has St. Patrick for a patron, so they not only dispense us from fasting on that day, but they organize a little fete in the parish courtyard! It can get pretty loud at times.  |
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Post by pianistclare on Feb 28, 2017 14:02:40 GMT
One thing that has cropped up in discussion in our parish:
The K of C do a big fish dinner (donations only) and they always make shrimp. Buckets and buckets of shrimp along with the whitefish. Since it's a free meal, and the menu is FABULOUS, people come out in droves. But is shrimp a sacrifice in our culture? Certainly not. There are those who always refrain from the shrimp on grounds that it's not right to eat something most people only go out to dinner for on special occasions. And the Knights always get upset with them! For the Knights, they are hosting a wonderful mean in the spirit of fellowship. For the some of the parishioners, it's a near occasion of gluttony, LOL Especially when followed by the Stations of the Cross.
At any rate, it's not terribly sacrificial, and I for one, don't this it send the right message as a parish.
Particularly since people complain about such other issues, as people talking before Mass, leaving before Mass is over, dressing improperly for liturgy, few people in in the confessional lines....etc ad nauseum. But when it comes to free food! ANYTHING GOES!
Kind of funny when you think about it, but also kind of sad, from an educational standpoint.
Go figure.
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Post by katie on Mar 4, 2017 11:25:15 GMT
Yes Clare I agree, sounds like a shrimp party. Ugh. Our family will have meatless lasagne on St. Patricks, and corned beef on St. Joseph day. Lol. . We're multi cultural. |
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Post by pianistclare on Mar 4, 2017 11:49:46 GMT
That sounds delicious!!!!
I might try that as well......the hubs is a Joseph.
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Post by Irishmom on Mar 4, 2017 17:07:57 GMT
We might have a potato palooza meal. A bunch of different kinds of potato dishes. Most with cheese. Okay, lots of cheese. Especially if my daughter is coming that day. 😊
If she isn't coming, then maybe a nice crab lasagna I haven't made in a while.
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Post by pensmama87 on Mar 4, 2017 17:43:28 GMT
I think we might try to make a different Irish dish on the Saturday afterwards. Any good suggestions from Joe, Clare? |
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Post by Irishmom on Mar 5, 2017 8:51:46 GMT
I think we might try to make a different Irish dish on the Saturday afterwards. Any good suggestions from Joe, Clare? I have used this recipe and it was delicious! Oh, the sauce!! 😍 www.closetcooking.com/2012/03/bangers-and-colcannon-with-guinness.htmlI need need to make this again soon. This guys site has tons of great sounding recipes. I found him through Pinterest. |
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