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Post by katy777 on Jul 29, 2021 16:42:34 GMT
My teen went for her sports physical..
Not one question was asked about covid vax
Has anyone taken Thier child or teen to the doctor and asked about this?
Now I'm worried because she barely made the growth chart @4'10 at 15 years.
(I was ready to say no anyway).
Also she was asked about her cycle which is irregular and they wanted to put her on the pill to regulate it. I said I'm catholic, no.
Is using the pill to do this a sin?
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Post by farronwolf on Jul 29, 2021 17:46:38 GMT
Don't take my word for it, but I would say if the purpose of the pill is not for preventing pregnancy, it would not be morally wrong.
At the point where she gets married and is able to have relations with her spouse, she would then need to stop the pill because of the side effects of preventing pregnancy in addition to regulating her cycle.
This is with the assumption that there is no sexual activity prior to marriage, which is what is required by the Church and God.
Like I said, don't take my word for it, cause I don't know nothing, I am just a dude at a keyboard.
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Post by katy777 on Jul 29, 2021 19:26:08 GMT
No, she has no relations..she's got 2 much older brothers with baseball bats in thier trunks.
Lol
Seriously she is chaste and a good girl and will only date when she meets her intended.
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Post by StellaMaris on Jul 30, 2021 3:46:27 GMT
Humanae Vitae covers that situation.
"The Church does not consider illicit the use of those therapeutic means necessary to cure bodily diseases, even if a foreseeable impediment to procreation should result there from—provided such impediment is not directly intended for any motive whatsoever" (Humanae Vitae 15).
I'm just wondering now with Olympic swimming on... I know that the female swimmers use the pill to prevent a period during the games... whether that is permissible for a Catholic? I couldn't find any info on the internet about those situations.
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Post by po18guy on Aug 2, 2021 18:48:11 GMT
She is already taller than Saint Bernadette (4'7"). To regulate her period, the pill is not causing or intended to cause contraception or abortion. Used for medical purposes, it is fine.
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Post by katy777 on Aug 2, 2021 18:51:31 GMT
I told her doctor give 6 months.
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Post by joeg on Aug 21, 2021 15:03:04 GMT
Did the doc order a hormone panel or other relevant tests before recommending the contraceptive? I imagine you went to a mainstream, insurance doctor. I'm not telling you to choose one type of doctor over another but reminding you that there are doctors who have a different approach or philosophy. For example you might learn about the Functional Medicine approach. My experience is that they are willing to be a medical detective but usually don't accept insurance. www.ifm.org/If the doc won't order tests you might have some options. www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100013/female-basic-hormone-panel-blood-testThat test includes progesterone. Learn about the role that it is thought to have related to a woman's cycle. The immediate precursor to progesterone is pregnenolone, the "grandmother" of the steroid hormones. You'll see them and downstream sex and stress hormones here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnenolone Low, inexpensive 10mg doses of pregnenolone are available over the counter in high-end vitamin shops but my understanding is that teens should not be messing around with steroid hormones except under doctor's supervision. Some people who choose to not use actual bioidentical hormones just support the steroid hormones with adrenal *cortex* glandular, vitamin C, B5, and avoid being low in iron and cholesterol. I think the enzyme that converts cholesterol to pregnenolone requires iron. The FM doctors my dear friend and I used ran relevant tests. Obviously there is a degree of complexity here so an FM doctor or similar who does hormone balancing would likely be helpful. I know two middle aged females who were grateful for their visit with an FM doctor about the subject. I was as well. My dear friend's cycle became more regular--and so was her personality ; ) |
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Post by homeschooldad on Aug 21, 2021 15:54:08 GMT
Did the doc order a hormone panel or other relevant tests before recommending the contraceptive? I imagine you went to a mainstream, insurance doctor. I'm not telling you to choose one type of doctor over another but reminding you that there are doctors who have a different approach or philosophy. For example you might learn about the Functional Medicine approach. My experience is that they are willing to be a medical detective but usually don't accept insurance. www.ifm.org/If the doc won't order tests you might have some options. www.lifeextension.com/lab-testing/itemlc100013/female-basic-hormone-panel-blood-testThat test includes progesterone. Learn about the role that it is thought to have related to a woman's cycle. The immediate precursor to progesterone is pregnenolone, the "grandmother" of the steroid hormones. You'll see them and downstream sex and stress hormones here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnenolone Low, inexpensive 10mg doses of pregnenolone are available over the counter in high-end vitamin shops but my understanding is that teens should not be messing around with steroid hormones except under doctor's supervision. Some people who choose to not use actual bioidentical hormones just support the steroid hormones with adrenal *cortex* glandular, vitamin C, B5, and avoid being low in iron and cholesterol. I think the enzyme that converts cholesterol to pregnenolone requires iron. Obviously there is a degree of complexity here so an FM doctor or similar who does hormone balancing would likely be helpful. I know two middle aged females who were grateful for their visit with an FM doctor about the subject. I was as well. My dear friend's cycle became more regular--and so was her personality ; ) Not to be a "Dutch Uncle" where this is concerned, but is medical advice of this nature, permitted on this forum? Fine if it is, fine if it's not. I shy away from anything that is not either allopathic, "regular" medicine, or at least not incompatible with it, such as taking dietary supplements.
As far as using BCP, without contraceptive intent, among women who are presumably chaste, for something like sports competitions, I could not say, I tend to think it is gratuitous interference with a God-given bodily function, and on top of that, a bodily function that is not meant to be tampered with when there is no illness present, but I'd have to stop short of speaking definitively about it, and instead defer to a confessor who is faithful to all of the orthodox teachings of the magisterium. (I do not trust priests who aren't loyal to the magisterium in all things, "any further than I can throw them", to use the non-literal idiom. I don't seek their advice on anything.) I tend to think that for something like a military deployment --- where one might licitly impede a natural bodily faculty for the common good --- it would probably be acceptable, and the question that then begs to be answered (that is not "begging the question", that's an entirely different concept that doesn't apply here) is "does sports performance rise to the level of something serious enough, that one could licitly suppress a normal and healthy bodily function, in the name of making performance easier, not necessarily enhancing performance, but just making life easier for the one competing?". Again, deference to an orthodox confessor.
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Post by katy777 on Aug 21, 2021 16:02:44 GMT
When my oldest suffered from resistant acne we took him to the dermatologist. My daughters acne is minimum so no need for that yet.
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Post by tth1 on Sept 5, 2021 14:20:52 GMT
I cannot say exactly why the doctor who conducted your daughter's sports physical exam didn't mention the COVID-19 vaccine. I can hazard a guess. In my experience doctors very often tend to (a) deal only with the reason you have come to see them and (b) deal with something that falls within the scope of their specialty.
If your daughter has irregular periods you can take her to your family physician (FP) who may carry out tests. S/he can discuss with you a range of options. Unless the irregularity of the periods is causing her painful or distressing symptoms the doctor may do 'wait-and-see' because they may settle down as your daughter gets older. If the FP thinks it necessary s/he could refer your daughter to a gynaecologist.
I'm not sure why you're concerned the doctor didn't initiate a conversation about COVID-19 vaccination when you don't want her to receive it.
If it were my daughter and a doctor wanted her to take the pill to manage a medical condition I would seek the advice of a priest. I think it would be allowed because she is not married, and not, therefore, trying for a family, and isn't taking the drug for its contraceptive function but for another purpose. Many drugs are prescribed for what was not their original function but it has been found the drug can have other beneficial effects. For example, I know somebody who takes a drug initially intended to treat depression but this person takes it because it manages neurogenic pain with which they suffer.
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Post by ridgerunner on Mar 14, 2023 17:18:03 GMT
Your daughter might consider being grateful about her height. At risk of talking about medicine, I'll say that her vertebrae, discs and joint cartilage are the same as a person who is much bigger than her. But the leverage of movement for her is much lower than for bigger people, so she's likely to keep intact discs and healthy cartilage well into old age. I'll never forget talking to an orthopaedic surgeon about that and he said "oh yes. I even wrote a journal article about that". He also informed me he stood 6'4" and has had two fusion surgeries in his back. So while your daughter might not appreciate her height right now, she probably will when others her age are having knee replacements and disc fusions and your dauhgter can still keep a garden and enjoy a trampoline when her hair is white.
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