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Post by tth1 on Sept 6, 2021 13:52:12 GMT
Who is censoring these people? The answer: no one.
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Post by StellaMaris on Sept 6, 2021 22:30:17 GMT
It is scary to realise the reality that if social media had been around back when, we'd still be dealing with polio and smallpox in the community.
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Post by tth1 on Sept 7, 2021 12:50:26 GMT
It is scary to realise the reality that if social media had been around back when, we'd still be dealing with polio and smallpox in the community. Very true and I think people forget these diseases killed and caused many a disability. Hopefully, polio will soon be fully eradicated. I am old enough, unfortunately , to have had smallpox vaccine in the past. Indeed, if we believed the antivaxxers, I shouldn't be here all the vaccines I've had.
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Post by ratioetfides on Sept 7, 2021 13:12:09 GMT
It is scary to realise the reality that if social media had been around back when, we'd still be dealing with polio and smallpox in the community. Very true and I think people forget these diseases killed and caused many a disability. Hopefully, polio will soon be fully eradicated. I am old enough, unfortunately [img alt=" " src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/embarrassed.png" class="smile"] , to have had smallpox vaccine in the past. Indeed, if we believed the antivaxxers, I shouldn't be here all the vaccines I've had. So true. So many point to the ‘mortality rate.’ Death is NOT the ONLY BAD outcome. Some are being sent home on full time oxygen. Some have organ damage. Some have severe emotional trauma. Many will carry life long struggles related to infection. All the potential after effects are not even know. The effects of the socials are very disturbing. It is also concerning people ‘stop watching the news’ and the only rely on the ‘information streams’ provided to their electronic devices. These streams have been specifically designed to feed the user the type of information they wish to see. This is a massive case of insulation and confirmation bias.
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Post by joeg on Sept 26, 2021 3:47:20 GMT
Who is censoring these people? The answer: no one. The following is an example of the massive amount of censorship of anything going against the Big Pharma sales pitch. They are excerpts from the article. I think Wikipedia later relented and restored some of the information. Dr. Malone also said at one point his LinkedIn profile was deleted without notice. Malone is so well respected internationally that a large group of scientists complained to LinkedIn. The VP of LinkedIn actually contacted Malone and apologized. They restored his profile. A medical school professor with 600 publishes papers and was editor of two medical journals wrote a paper about treatments for outpatients with an international group of doctors. It was published in a peer reviewed medical journal. He said that for months it was the most frequently downloaded Covid paper in the world. When the prof made a Youtube video about the paper it was removed by Youtube. He tells the story at 5 minutes in this interview with Tucker Carlson of Fox. rumble.com/vgqfkd-full-interview-peter-mccullough-on-covid-19-successes-and-failures.htmlBtw, some doctors who have been using a similar protocol at their emergency care center reported to the Italian government's Senate that they've had 7000 Covid patients. NONE has died when they started within the first five days of symptoms, including elderly and those with high risk factors. www.thedesertreview.com/news/local/dr-fareed-addresses-italian-senate-at-covid-summit/article_75ef29c2-16ff-11ec-9560-1b32c7c0d4a0.htmlThe FLCCC.net emergency med doctors and med school profs had to move their weekly videos from Youtube to Odysee. Much of their recent video is about the terrible medical ethics of medical leadership around the world. odysee.com/@frontlinecovid19criticalcarealliance:c/FLCCC-Weekly_Update-092221_MATH+:0?r=5kNquwJyH4B5zdWGjxGzjFDZJ5ozLiVFThis is the bio of the FLCCC founder, the very admirable Dr. Paul Marik. I've been following his pandemic work not only because he has the relevant knowledge, but his ethics sound Catholic. It does not hurt that his hospital's death rate last Summer was around 7% at a time when PBS was reporting that the Philly hospitals were around 18% Another FLCCC prof who runs the emergency med dept at a Houston area hospital had an even better death rate. Dr. Marik is currently Professor of Medicine and Chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine at Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk, Virginia, and is board certified in Internal Medicine, Critical Care Medicine, Neurocritical Care and Nutrition Science. Dr. Marik is the 2nd most published critical care physician in the world, having written over 500 peer-reviewed journal articles, 80 book chapters, and four critical care books; he has already co-authored 10 papers on therapeutic aspects of COVID-19. He has been cited over 43,000 times in peer-reviewed publications and has delivered over 350 lectures at international conferences and visiting professorships. Dr. Marik has received numerous teaching awards, including the National Teacher of the Year award by the American College of Physicians in 2017. Dr. Marik is also a founding physician of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, which began in March 2020 to develop treatment protocols to help prevent the transmission of COVID-19 and improve outcomes for patients ill with the disease.
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Post by tth1 on Sept 26, 2021 13:55:05 GMT
Who is censoring these people? The answer: no one. The following is an example of the massive amount of censorship of anything going against the Big Pharma sales pitch. They are excerpts from the article. I think Wikipedia later relented and restored some of the information. Dr. Malone also said at one point his LinkedIn profile was deleted without notice. Malone is so well respected internationally that a large group of scientists complained to LinkedIn. The VP of LinkedIn actually contacted Malone and apologized. They restored his profile. A medical school professor with 600 publishes papers and was editor of two medical journals wrote a paper about treatments for outpatients with an international group of doctors. It was published in a peer reviewed medical journal. He said that for months it was the most frequently downloaded Covid paper in the world. When the prof made a Youtube video about the paper it was removed by Youtube. He tells the story at 5 minutes in this interview with Tucker Carlson of Fox. rumble.com/vgqfkd-full-interview-peter-mccullough-on-covid-19-successes-and-failures.htmlBtw, some doctors who have been using a similar protocol at their emergency care center reported to the Italian government's Senate that they've had 7000 Covid patients. NONE has died when they started within the first five days of symptoms, including elderly and those with high risk factors. www.thedesertreview.com/news/local/dr-fareed-addresses-italian-senate-at-covid-summit/article_75ef29c2-16ff-11ec-9560-1b32c7c0d4a0.htmlThe FLCCC.net emergency med doctors and med school profs had to move their weekly videos from Youtube to Odysee. Much of their recent video is about the terrible medical ethics of medical leadership around the world. odysee.com/@frontlinecovid19criticalcarealliance:c/FLCCC-Weekly_Update-092221_MATH+:0?r=5kNquwJyH4B5zdWGjxGzjFDZJ5ozLiVFThis is the bio of the FLCCC founder, the very admirable Dr. Paul Marik. I've been following his pandemic work not only because he has the relevant knowledge, but his ethics sound Catholic. It does not hurt that his hospital's death rate last Summer was around 7% at a time when PBS was reporting that the Philly hospitals were around 18% Another FLCCC prof who runs the emergency med dept at a Houston area hospital had an even better death rate. Dr. Marik is currently Professor of Medicine and Chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine at Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk, Virginia, and is board certified in Internal Medicine, Critical Care Medicine, Neurocritical Care and Nutrition Science. Dr. Marik is the 2nd most published critical care physician in the world, having written over 500 peer-reviewed journal articles, 80 book chapters, and four critical care books; he has already co-authored 10 papers on therapeutic aspects of COVID-19. He has been cited over 43,000 times in peer-reviewed publications and has delivered over 350 lectures at international conferences and visiting professorships. Dr. Marik has received numerous teaching awards, including the National Teacher of the Year award by the American College of Physicians in 2017. Dr. Marik is also a founding physician of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, which began in March 2020 to develop treatment protocols to help prevent the transmission of COVID-19 and improve outcomes for patients ill with the disease. There are a number of reasons why I'm not at all interested in what you posted. You bemoan censorship but do not give a balanced report. Why did Wikipedia, YouTube, LinkedIn or whoever else you mentioned take down what they did? What did they say about their actions?
I do not consider the digital media to which you refer editing or removing things to be censorship of science. That's because that's not where science is done. It is done through publication in peer-reviewed, learned journals.
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Post by ratioetfides on Sept 27, 2021 13:03:43 GMT
To just address one do these instances of ‘censorship’… There has been much discussion surrounding Malone’s presence in certain Wikipedia articles. The following contains an extensive discussion of the Malone Wikipedia entries. Additional insight is provided by Wikipedia editors/contributors in the comments section. respectfulinsolence.com/2021/07/13/is-mrna-vaccine-inventor-robert-malone-being-erased-for-his-claims-about-covid-19/‘Between 2017 and recently an account has existed purely, it seems, for the purposes of adding Malone’s name to multiple articles on Wikipedia.[6] On 8 June this year the account added Malone’s name to this article.[7] Such additions were not backed by the sources cited; in fact no reputable source identifies Malone as the “inventor of RNA vaccines”, or even as a significant figure. The account was blocked for self-promotion/spam and the article returned to its longstanding form and improved in other ways. Meanwhile, on social media and in the scummier parts of the web, a lie has been spread that “longstanding” information on Wikipedia was scrubbed. Some people have been suckered in by this. Alexbrn (talk) 10:44, 6 July 2021 (UTC)’ Of course it is easier to just swallow, repeat, and amplify the claims of CENSORSHIP than to do the work of investigating the claim. N.B. Paul Merik’s ethics include promoting potentially deadly misinformation…this does not sound ‘Catholic’ in the least.
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Post by katy777 on Oct 14, 2021 18:44:28 GMT
Because he's a scientist and not confident in his research.
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Post by tth1 on Oct 15, 2021 14:39:24 GMT
Even if Malone were the inventor of the mRNA technology being used in vaccine research and he chose to claim it didn't work doesn't mean it doesn't. You find lots of fundamentalist, evangelical, young earth creationist Christians saying Darwin repudiated evolution on his deathbed. There is no evidence that Darwin did this just as there's no evidence Malone played any significant role in developing mRNA technology. Even if Darwin did what is claimed it makes no differnece to evolution being true.
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Post by po18guy on Oct 15, 2021 21:34:16 GMT
Those who post much say little. All of this is academic. As it is now, sooner or later, you WILL BE vaccinated. The greater good, as in the USSR and Red China, is the rule. Hysteria reigns, fear decides and conformity is legislated. God's freedom of conscience is crushed by the state.
Look at history. It predicts the future, as it is demonstrated proof of fallen human nature at its worst.
Oh, but we are smarter now.
Right.
For the haters: I have been a good subject and have been vaccinated twice - so kindly hold whatever remnant of peace you possess.
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Post by tth1 on Oct 16, 2021 16:40:38 GMT
Those who post much say little. All of this is academic. As it is now, sooner or later, you WILL BE vaccinated. The greater good, as in the USSR and Red China, is the rule. Hysteria reigns, fear decides and conformity is legislated. God's freedom of conscience is crushed by the state. Look at history. It predicts the future, as it is demonstrated proof of fallen human nature at its worst. Oh, but we are smarter now. Right. For the haters: I have been a good subject and have been vaccinated twice - so kindly hold whatever remnant of peace you possess. I do believe that one should be vaccinated. I am not sure why so many are making such a fuss about vaccines for COVID-19. There are many vaccination programmes for a whole range of diseases. I have been vaccinated three times now. I anticipate being vaccinated next year because COVID-19 is here to stay and because viruses mutate so vaccine boosters are a necessity.
However, I would have thought long and hard about being vaccinated if the UK Government has made it a legal obligation. I do believe it should be a matter of choice. Unfortunately, I cannot say I have heard anybody give me a rational reason for not being vaccinated for anything. My wife received no childhood vaccinations because her mother "didn't believe in them". That's the best my mother-in-law ever says. She cannot give a rational reason for not having her children vaccinated.
I was happy to be vaccinated. I want life to get back to normality and the vaccine programme is the way there. I think it is quite selfish to refuse a vaccine when it is not just about oneself. Being vaccinated helps the development of herd immunity which significantly reduces the risk of any individual getting the disease. It also helps protects people who cannot be vaccinated. There are some who cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons. I highly commend you for having had the vaccine. It is I beleive an act of charity for reasons I have already given.
Here in the UK we had measles-free status. In 2016 the WHO took that status away because of a stupid campaign against measles vaccination. We now have measles again in the UK. People incorrectly think that it is just a disease where the child has spots. It can be quite dangerous and can leave children with severe disabilities such as blindness or deafness. It can and does kill.
What I would like to see now if a far more concerted effort by rich countries such as the UK and USA doing far more to ensure that poor countries have access to the COVID-19 vaccines.
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Post by po18guy on Oct 18, 2021 7:43:30 GMT
Ultimately, the vaccines will improve. Honestly, I do not understand the paranoia, since there is no "666 Chip" liquified and injected into your veins. Neither are there "baby parts." Good grief. What was used were cells which were cloned innumerable times after the originals had died off. Therefore, they are identical to the aborted fetal cells but are not the actual fetal cells from an abortion. Still, that is not a sound moral foundation for a "medicine." The big deal? To me it is government mandated violation of conscience. There are indeed valid reasons to object to the foundational research which cloned and preserved fetal cell lines.
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Post by tth1 on Oct 20, 2021 14:51:52 GMT
I, too, do not understand the paranoia. It gave me a thoroughly good laugh when I read somewhere that Bill Gates was having chips put in the vaccines so he could see what you were doing. I thought, well, good luck to him if he has enough hours in the day. Plus, he was going to be very bored plotting where I went and what I did.
Not all the vaccines are developed from a cell line that came from aborted foetuses decades ago. Therefore, Catholics not prepared to accept the Holy See's position that Catholics could have such vaccines and whose conscience prevailed on them to refuse them could have alternative vaccines. I had all three of my doses from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The vaccine clinic gave me no choice in which I had but, equally, I did not demur about the one being offered. That was developed from mRNA technology and not cell lines. Therefore, that is one where I can see no Catholic having grounds for refusing because of their conscience.
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