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Post by tth1 on Sept 6, 2021 13:17:07 GMT
I'm wondering why people who refuse to follow precautions to prevent the spread of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavius 2 (contracted to SARS-CoV-2) which is the virus that causes Coronavirus Disease 2019 (contracted to COVID-19) refuse to follow those precautions. I wonder if any on here who do refuse can expalin objectively why they refuse to follow them. I cannot understand why people do not want to protect themselves, to protect other people, to reduce the burden on healthcare, to reduce the impact this pandemic is having on education and the economy. I am genuinely intrigued and want to hear calm and rational reasons for these choices. I haven't had the vax because it's too rushed. Now I hear, perhaps a rumor that u will have to take 2 pills with Pfizer later on --a day . It needed to be "rushed" because of the circumstances. However, the vaccines went through all the usual tests and passed them. Millions of doses have been safely given. Some people have had side-effects but that happens with every vaccine, indeed with every medicine. There is no such thing as a 100% safe drug.
I think the rumour you've heard about Pfizer and 2 pills per day is just that, i.e. a rumour.
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Post by ratioetfides on Sept 6, 2021 14:47:54 GMT
I'm wondering why people who refuse to follow precautions to prevent the spread of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavius 2 (contracted to SARS-CoV-2) which is the virus that causes Coronavirus Disease 2019 (contracted to COVID-19) refuse to follow those precautions. I wonder if any on here who do refuse can expalin objectively why they refuse to follow them. I cannot understand why people do not want to protect themselves, to protect other people, to reduce the burden on healthcare, to reduce the impact this pandemic is having on education and the economy. I am genuinely intrigued and want to hear calm and rational reasons for these choices. I haven't had the vax because it's too rushed. Now I hear, perhaps a rumor that u will have to take 2 pills with Pfizer later on --a day . Some folks believe this because they have been duped and/or radicalized by the misinformation, disinformation and propaganda which appears in their Facebook feeds, Twitter feeds, or favorite blogs. Little thought is made of liking, sharing or re-tweeting. In an attempt to disassociate from any potential ‘bad’ or moral consequences of spreading such information we see tactics used such as ‘i heard’ or ‘maybe it’s a rumor’ rather than using one shred of critical analysis prior to amplifying these claims. |
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Post by katy777 on Sept 6, 2021 15:06:17 GMT
I was honest in my reply. I don't think calling people "radicalized" is nice. I do not have a Facebook and heard this thing about a pill 2x a day on my Google feed.
I made a choice based on the speed in which the vax came out..
For me to get it, I would have to get clearance from my doctor.
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Post by ratioetfides on Sept 6, 2021 15:35:11 GMT
Google can be thought of as one great big giant blog where anyone can post anything. Google is feeding users ‘information’ the user has taught Google they want to consume. Users actions drive the feed. Users are responsible.
There were two categories offered. Duped and radicalized. Readers meeting the offered criteria to be in one of the two groups are welcome to choose either. If they don’t like radicalized, duped is just fine.
Tomorrow is a regular work day in the US. Those needing ‘physician clearance’ to be vaccinated could make the call seeking clearance. It would be an immense kindness to the rest of the human race.
Those claiming the vaccine was ‘rushed’ or ‘it is too soon’ to take the vaccine should have the honesty to let others know exactly when and under what circumstances the vaccine will be ‘proven’ and known to be ‘safe’. This is far more responsible than sowing vaccine mistrust/hesitancy.
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Post by StellaMaris on Sept 6, 2021 22:16:09 GMT
Yes people are much better off looking at the official science and the fact is that we trust in the experts in so many of our medical decisions, it doesn't make sense to suddenly not trust now but to listen to conspiracy theorists and quacks to make our decisions. Here is but one source of official expertise that may help. The long road to mRNA vaccines
Today’s success with mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 comes from the decades of research that came before it.
The big question
Was the science behind the COVID-19 vaccines rushed?
The quick answer
The science behind the new COVID-19 vaccines has not been rushed. In fact, these vaccines are building on decades of scientific research.
The story involves hundreds of people all over the world and highlights the importance of fundamental and applied research. Advancements in our understanding of messenger RNA (mRNA) and its potential for use in medicines, along with the creation of new technologies over the last 30 years, made these vaccines possible. Recent research on coronaviruses, in particular, made these vaccines effective.
The longer story
Headlines around the world have focused on how quickly vaccines against COVID-19 were developed, but there is no such thing as an "overnight success" in science.
These vaccines—and the ones that use messenger RNA (mRNA), in particular—are building on decades of scientific research.
Fundamental research (sometimes called basic research) focuses on the underlying mechanisms of biology and the cellular, molecular, and physiological basis for health and disease.
Applied research teases out the knowledge acquired through fundamental research in the hopes of putting it to a specific use, like new medicines and therapies.
The story behind these mRNA vaccines and the related technologies involves hundreds of people all over the world who have worked in fundamental and applied areas of research over time. Their efforts helped to create the knowledge base that led to the wonderful vaccine developments we're seeing at work today.
Wait a minute. What the heck is messenger RNA (mRNA), anyway?
Right now, your body is using millions of tiny proteins for its regular functions, just to stay alive and healthy.
Messenger RNA (mRNA) is critical to all of this because it’s what your body uses to tell your cells which proteins to build.
Decades of progress
This “knowledge base” is exactly what it sounds like: it’s a foundation of knowledge that has been built through hard work. Every surprising study, every failed experiment, every paper published—in the world of science, these are all small steps of progress. And when it comes to mRNA, researchers have been taking these steps for decades. Read on here. |
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Post by ridgerunner on Mar 14, 2023 17:08:23 GMT
I'm wondering why people who refuse to follow precautions to prevent the spread of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavius 2 (contracted to SARS-CoV-2) which is the virus that causes Coronavirus Disease 2019 (contracted to COVID-19) refuse to follow those precautions. I wonder if any on here who do refuse can expalin objectively why they refuse to follow them. I cannot understand why people do not want to protect themselves, to protect other people, to reduce the burden on healthcare, to reduce the impact this pandemic is having on education and the economy. I am genuinely intrigued and want to hear calm and rational reasons for these choices. These are some of the reasons we have heard here and across other Catholic forums concerning masks: They don’t ‘work’ Tons of studies ‘show’ they don’t ‘work’ There is no evidence they do ‘work’ They make people sick They are the source of all the pneumonia The actually spread more infections They are a source of contagion They are ‘immoral’ because they cover up God’s creation They cause children to develop anti-social behavior They are an infringement on freedom Just a few to get started. These are some of the claims. Now as to clear, calm, well reasoned argument to support these claims…different story… |
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Post by ridgerunner on Mar 14, 2023 17:27:33 GMT
I live in one of the most conservative places in the nation. (S.W. Mo. Ozarks) People here rebel against the Covid culture and just plain won't take the vax or make kids wear masks. Schools don't dare require the masks. I'm glad of that. Nobody wears them anywhere. Kids are no sicker than anywhere else as near as I can tell. Well, I have a number of relatives in Kansas City and St. Louis, and their disease situation (including Covid) is considerably more challenging.
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