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Post by rigidjesus on Jul 23, 2021 2:04:19 GMT
Ok Rigid, are you actually Seraphim of recent deletion? No I am not. |
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Post by StellaMaris on Jul 23, 2021 2:08:29 GMT
Vatican II is a holy and ecumenical council of the universal Catholic Church. Is there something specific about the council you wanted to ask? Yes, there is something I would like to ask; Is "The Council of Vatican II" "Roman Catholicism?" Why do you keep asking the same question over and over? You've been given the answer numerous times. Yes, Vatican II is Catholic and Jesus wasn't rigid. The Pharisees were rigid and in being so rejected God with them and the Holy Spirit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 2:15:44 GMT
Vatican II is a holy and ecumenical council of the universal Catholic Church. Is there something specific about the council you wanted to ask? Yes, there is something I would like to ask; Is "The Council of Vatican II" "Roman Catholicism?" I don't understand your question. Vatican II is universally Catholic, not just Roman Catholic. So yes it "is" Roman Catholic, but it's also Byzantine Catholic, Maronite Catholic, Syro Malabar Catholic, etc. |
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Post by rigidjesus on Jul 23, 2021 2:18:58 GMT
Yes, there is something I would like to ask; Is "The Council of Vatican II" "Roman Catholicism?" Why do you keep asking the same question over and over? You've been given the answer numerous times. Yes, Vatican II is Catholic and Jesus wasn't rigid. The Pharisees were rigid and in being so rejected God with them and the Holy Spirit. I am asking these questions to everyone here. I am very interested in finding out if you believe "Vatican II is "Roman Catholic." Do you believe “Vatican II” is “Roman Catholicism?”; Do you believe “Vatican II” is “Roman Catholic?”
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Post by rigidjesus on Jul 23, 2021 2:21:20 GMT
Yes, there is something I would like to ask; Is "The Council of Vatican II" "Roman Catholicism?" I don't understand your question. Vatican II is universally Catholic, not just Roman Catholic. So yes it "is" Roman Catholic, but it's also Byzantine Catholic, Maronite Catholic, Syro Malabar Catholic, etc. Thanks, you answered my question very well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 3:02:17 GMT
I don't understand your question. Vatican II is universally Catholic, not just Roman Catholic. So yes it "is" Roman Catholic, but it's also Byzantine Catholic, Maronite Catholic, Syro Malabar Catholic, etc. Thanks, you answered my question very well. No problem. Glad I could be of help. God Bless. |
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Post by jimg on Jul 23, 2021 17:09:58 GMT
"Roman Catholicism" is not a very precise term. When someone refers to "Roman" Catholicism, what is meant is normally the Latin Rite of the universal Catholic Church. Vatican Council II was an ecumenical council of the Catholic Church.
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Post by rigidjesus on Jul 24, 2021 18:22:27 GMT
Yes, there is something I would like to ask; Is "The Council of Vatican II" "Roman Catholicism?" I don't understand your question. Vatican II is universally Catholic, not just Roman Catholic. So yes it "is" Roman Catholic, but it's also Byzantine Catholic, Maronite Catholic, Syro Malabar Catholic, etc. Can you please post some proof from “Roman Catholic Dogma” that “Vatican II” is “Roman Catholic?” |
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Post by rigidjesus on Jul 24, 2021 18:33:52 GMT
"Roman Catholicism" is not a very precise term. When someone refers to "Roman" Catholicism, what is meant is normally the Latin Rite of the universal Catholic Church. Vatican Council II was an ecumenical council of the Catholic Church. Is "Vatican II" a "Pastoral Council" or "Dogmatic Council" of the "Catholic Church"? Is Roman Catholicism Pastoral or Dogmatic?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 19:03:05 GMT
"Roman Catholicism" is not a very precise term. When someone refers to "Roman" Catholicism, what is meant is normally the Latin Rite of the universal Catholic Church. Vatican Council II was an ecumenical council of the Catholic Church. Is "Vatican II" a "Pastoral Council" or "Dogmatic Council" of the "Catholic Church"? Is Roman Catholicism Pastoral or Dogmatic?
It was "Pastoral" in that no dogma's were changed or added. However, as far as I know, Council's in the Church aren't defined to be Pastoral or Dogmatic, but Ecumenical. They don't know how the Holy Spirit will guide the Bishops in the council. Also, Sacred Dogma's can not be changed. |
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Post by rigidjesus on Jul 24, 2021 19:13:00 GMT
Is "Vatican II" a "Pastoral Council" or "Dogmatic Council" of the "Catholic Church"? Is Roman Catholicism Pastoral or Dogmatic?
It was "Pastoral" in that no dogma's were changed or added. However, as far as I know, Council's in the Church aren't defined to be Pastoral or Dogmatic, but Ecumenical. They don't know how the Holy Spirit will guide the Bishops in the council. Also, Sacred Dogma's can not be changed. Are "Ecumenical Councils" subservient to "Roman Catholic Dogma?" |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 19:16:02 GMT
It was "Pastoral" in that no dogma's were changed or added. However, as far as I know, Council's in the Church aren't defined to be Pastoral or Dogmatic, but Ecumenical. They don't know how the Holy Spirit will guide the Bishops in the council. Also, Sacred Dogma's can not be changed. Are "Ecumenical Councils" subservient to "Roman Catholic Dogma?" Sacred Dogma can not be changed. The Bishops at the councils can not change them |
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Post by StellaMaris on Jul 24, 2021 22:12:19 GMT
It was "Pastoral" in that no dogma's were changed or added. However, as far as I know, Council's in the Church aren't defined to be Pastoral or Dogmatic, but Ecumenical. They don't know how the Holy Spirit will guide the Bishops in the council. Also, Sacred Dogma's can not be changed. Are "Ecumenical Councils" subservient to "Roman Catholic Dogma?" I fear that you are stuck in a problematic rigidity. The Church is a living organism and Christ raises up prophets and teachers in every age to keep the Truth alive. Your wording is off and a sign of rigidity that kills. |
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Post by rigidjesus on Jul 24, 2021 23:27:34 GMT
Are "Ecumenical Councils" subservient to "Roman Catholic Dogma?" I fear that you are stuck in a problematic rigidity. The Church is a living organism and Christ raises up prophets and teachers in every age to keep the Truth alive. Your wording is off and a sign of rigidity that kills. Do you believe “Roman Catholic Dogma,” without any innovation, is too rigid? |
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Post by StellaMaris on Jul 24, 2021 23:33:57 GMT
I fear that you are stuck in a problematic rigidity. The Church is a living organism and Christ raises up prophets and teachers in every age to keep the Truth alive. Your wording is off and a sign of rigidity that kills. Do you believe “Roman Catholic Dogma,” without any innovation, is too rigid? Yes. Not only rigid, but dead. |
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