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Post by homeschooldad on Feb 11, 2021 15:45:41 GMT
I pretty much have to. I have elderly, disabled parents to care for --- my father is gravely ill with an unknown debilitating illness that so far has not been diagnosed --- and I have to have some chance of taking my son on at least a socially-distanced vacation (camping, cabins, possibly an outer-corridor lodge or hotel), I am for all practical purposes his sole custodial parent (de facto, though not legally) and he has no one else who will do this for him. Thankfully, I am in line for the non-abortive-derived Pfizer vaccine. My appointment is around the first of April.
Not crazy about it, but as I said, I pretty much have to. If there are questions of male sterility that will only be known in time to come, I am past my child-fathering years anyway, I am still bound to my wife who is in an illicit union with no annulment, and even if I weren't, I wouldn't be looking to marry a woman of childbearing age anyway. As far as other side-effects, we may just have to trust in Divine Providence on this one, and realize that they may assault our bodies, but cannot assault our souls, unless we give them permission to.
Good luck, and best wishes for your father's diagnosis, and possible treatment. This is a very trying time for the elderly and those who are tasked with caring for them. Thanks for your concern for my father, but no treatment other than nutrition and medication for comfort is possible at this point. (He has not been diagnosed with cancer, but doctors don't know everything.) I have begged him to pursue other treatments, but he is at an awkward crossroads of "can't do it" and "won't do it". I've talked to his doctor, and at this point must defer to my father's wishes.
I ask everyone's prayers here on CCS for his healing if God wills it, and for all to end in holiness and lack of suffering if God does not will the healing. My mother is in need of prayer as well, as it is not possible to console or comfort her. I am largely sheltering my son from the reality of it all, as he has a hard time coming to terms with such things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 16:04:08 GMT
You know what, if this place is going to become another brain dead liberal forum, I'm out.
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Post by farronwolf on Feb 11, 2021 16:52:24 GMT
Good luck, and best wishes for your father's diagnosis, and possible treatment. This is a very trying time for the elderly and those who are tasked with caring for them. Thanks for your concern for my father, but no treatment other than nutrition and medication for comfort is possible at this point. (He has not been diagnosed with cancer, but doctors don't know everything.) I have begged him to pursue other treatments, but he is at an awkward crossroads of "can't do it" and "won't do it". I've talked to his doctor, and at this point must defer to my father's wishes.
I ask everyone's prayers here on CCS for his healing if God wills it, and for all to end in holiness and lack of suffering if God does not will the healing. My mother is in need of prayer as well, as it is not possible to console or comfort her. I am largely sheltering my son from the reality of it all, as he has a hard time coming to terms with such things.
My 17 year old son took my fathers death 2 years ago very, very hard as they were closer than even myself and my dad were. With my mothers dementia progressing, he hasn't stated so, but it troubles him as well. The good thing is she still remembers him as they are very close as well. Many of the grandchildren who live farther away are unrecognizable to her initially. Will keep you and your family in my prayers.
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Post by pianistclare on Feb 11, 2021 18:14:47 GMT
I've had it. VERY early on it's arrival here. Sickest I've even been in my life. Was HORRIBLE, I can't even explain the suffering. If they have a vaccine so I don't contract it or pass to anyone...I'm down for it. Have not really had the luxury of quarantining at home. I have been to every Mass for nearly a year, doing everything from playing the hymns to sterilizing the pews (the varnish is coming off now) to trying to schedule enough Lectors and Ushers, taking up the collection myself because there was no one else to, to reporting. It's exhausting WITHOUT even being infected. I pray that I will never contract it again. Be safe everyone. Everyone has to decide for themselves, but I will add this: we are in a hot spot. Everyone is going about their business like there's nothing out there. And numbers are rising alarmingly. Our Sacristan just got round 2 of the vaccine and is very sick. Everything about this pandemic is terrible.
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Post by pianistclare on Feb 11, 2021 19:08:19 GMT
Everybody take a deep breath. Being able to discuss anything and everything without getting personal is a virtue around here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 21:20:40 GMT
You know what, if this place is going to become another brain dead liberal forum, I'm out. That's the best news I've heard all day. You are verbally abusive, and if I were in charge you would already be out. Telling the truth is now verbally abusive. Wow. Sorry I hurt your little fee fees, I went through and deleted all my posts before I hurt you anymore, idiot. Oh by the way, I have a shampoo recommendation to you: inb4 >immature At least I'm not an idiot like you!
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Post by josh987654321 on Feb 11, 2021 22:59:58 GMT
I promise you are not informing me of anything credible which I don't already know. You do know it? Or you don't think what I said there is credible? Like I said, when they can't say if it will reduce or prevent transmission of the virus, then the whole argument that your doing it for those around you is a nonsense, because if transmission is unaffected then you will still spread it.
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Post by josh987654321 on Feb 11, 2021 23:05:53 GMT
Wow. Sorry I hurt your little fee fees, I went through and deleted all my posts before I hurt you anymore, No need to do that, unless you want a break for a bit, don't need to delete everything, if they want to buy the hype or whatever, then it's their problem, they are the ones taking the Vaccine and if it has side effects later down the track they will be the ones who will have to suffer it. Once they inject themselves with synthetic mRNA they can't get rid of it or reverse the effects. The left is purging us, no need to do it for them, if they don't want to hear it I'll just say fine and move on, after all, I'm not taking it, they are, they are the ones who will have to live with the consequences of their mistake if they don't make an informed decision. God Bless
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Post by josh987654321 on Feb 11, 2021 23:09:27 GMT
I have to as well. Employee of the Archdiocese. I come in contact with WAY too many people daily. our Parish is soon going to be a vaccination spot. I'm on the list first. So your taking it because your worried about getting covid from those you come into contact with daily? Or do you believe you will be preventing transmission? because if it's the latter they don't know yet what if any it effects transmission and recommend against assuming that, so if it's the later you certainly don't need to. God Bless
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Post by josh987654321 on Feb 11, 2021 23:14:45 GMT
That's the best news I've heard all day. You are verbally abusive, and if I were in charge you would already be out. That's the thing with cancel culture, you can't cancel your way to a utopia, it simply becomes an echo chamber where nobody is challenged, ones own fantasy world that defeats it's own purpose as the whole thing becomes moot and dies, just like CAF and those like Facebook, Twitter, Google, Youtube will soon follow suit, because I not only left Google for it's spying, data collection, manipulating and deceptive practices, but when I can't even find what I'm looking for on Google anymore there is no point whatsoever.
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Post by josh987654321 on Feb 11, 2021 23:24:17 GMT
I've had it. VERY early on it's arrival here. Sickest I've even been in my life. Was HORRIBLE, I can't even explain the suffering. Did you try Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc and Antibiotics combo? Also as for can't explain the suffering, fever, pneumonia? If they have a vaccine so I don't contract it or pass to anyone...I'm down for it. You can still pass it on with the Vaccine at this stage, and once you've already had it you've built up anti bodies against it, the only difference will be if the Vaccine protects or is effective against new strains which there is no data on at all. Our Sacristan just got round 2 of the vaccine and is very sick. Everything about this pandemic is terrible. So they are trying to build anti bodies to the real thing... as well as anti bodies to the synthetic one, idk much about this but I would check into whether they are supposed to have the Vaccine if they are currently fighting it. The Vaccine is supposed to be a prevention not a treatment. And I hope you don't follow the insane advice of some to mix and match the brands between the 2 doses as some did in the UK. God Bless
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Post by josh987654321 on Feb 11, 2021 23:56:22 GMT
You know what, if this place is going to become another brain dead liberal forum, I'm out. I would also mention too, for posters like farronwolf, if they've already taken it, we have to be liars and conspiracy theorists, for the alternative is unacceptable, but time will tell, nobody can escape reality, if I'm not in an at risk group and I wait 2 years, then I've played it safe and lost nothing, if they ignore what we have said and rush in to take it, and then either right away or a couple years down the track, suffer severe adverse side effects, such as ADE, then we will be proven correct, not everyone will make it through the tribulations that are coming IMO. I've said my piece at the start, anyone interested can look into it with the information I've provided and make their own decision if they wish. God Bless You
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Post by josh987654321 on Feb 12, 2021 0:10:37 GMT
Really, Bill Gates owns Moderna. You really are going to have to give me some more info. Bill Gates owns GAVI www.gavi.org/ and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation have their hands all over the whole industry, so to say they don't have any invested interest is laughable, it's like saying they have no say in the WHO when they are one of the largest private donors, and thus anyone in the WHO knows that what Bill wants, Bill usually gets. He is also a big Planned Parenthood supporter and believes in over population, so those who created this monster by turning a blind eye to Planned Parenthood and Abortion, will soon IMO reap what they have sown with these new Vaccines. Time will tell though. Bill Gates has spent his entire philanthropy work and fortune in finding ways to reduce the worlds population, by any means available, primarily abortion and contraception, but studying sterilization through Vaccines and other methods. All under the guise of charity. The big question will be whether he is going after just sterilization to stop the population growing, or whether he wants to go further in actively reducing the current population through genocide they can blame on nature or an 'accident' such as a rushed Vaccine using radically new technology with severe adverse reactions down the track such as ADE, which they can then blame on a 'deadlier' new strain, but which will only be deadly for those who've had the Vaccine, in turn promoting more Vaccines, promoting more death. But who knows how exactly he is going to do it, all we know is that he has his hands all over the Vaccine industry and this is a radically new method of genetic engineering, rushed experimental jab where the manufacturers have immunity from liability. Lets see what happens.
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Post by farronwolf on Feb 12, 2021 2:24:54 GMT
Really, Bill Gates owns Moderna. You really are going to have to give me some more info. Bill Gates owns GAVI www.gavi.org/ and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation have their hands all over the whole industry, so to say they don't have any invested interest is laughable, it's like saying they have no say in the WHO when they are one of the largest private donors, and thus anyone in the WHO knows that what Bill wants, Bill usually gets. He is also a big Planned Parenthood supporter and believes in over population, so those who created this monster by turning a blind eye to Planned Parenthood and Abortion, will soon IMO reap what they have sown with these new Vaccines. Time will tell though. Bill Gates has spent his entire philanthropy work and fortune in finding ways to reduce the worlds population, by any means available, primarily abortion and contraception, but studying sterilization through Vaccines and other methods. All under the guise of charity. The big question will be whether he is going after just sterilization to stop the population growing, or whether he wants to go further in actively reducing the current population through genocide they can blame on nature or an 'accident' such as a rushed Vaccine using radically new technology with severe adverse reactions down the track such as ADE, which they can then blame on a 'deadlier' new strain, but which will only be deadly for those who've had the Vaccine, in turn promoting more Vaccines, promoting more death. But who knows how exactly he is going to do it, all we know is that he has his hands all over the Vaccine industry and this is a radically new method of genetic engineering, rushed experimental jab where the manufacturers have immunity from liability. Lets see what happens. Gates pledged 750 million to set up Gavi. He doesn't make any money from it. He funded it. The Gates foundation is not focused on reducing the worlds population. That statement is just nonsense, and an outright lie.
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Post by josh987654321 on Feb 12, 2021 3:02:34 GMT
Gates pledged 750 million to set up Gavi. He doesn't make any money from it. He funded it. What a saint LOL. The Gates foundation is not focused on reducing the worlds population. That statement is just nonsense, and an outright lie. LOL where have you been? Gates himself will tell you as much quite openly actually - www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozlbeXrb_5AHealth being the obvious euphemisms for abortion and contraceptives. But don't worry, this Microsoft billionaire turned Vaccine expert, abortion lover, eugenicist and population controller has the worlds best interest at heart don't you worry. Here is another one - www.youtube.com/watch?v=obRG-2jurz0As long as people stop having children, you might get some safe and effective Vaccines, but if that doesn't work, well, he might have to try some new methods, from an industry that has indemnity (immunity from liability) and an industry that his hands are all over. Overpopulation is his cardinal sin and what he has spent his entire fortune and philanthropy working on, what could go wrong putting this guy in charge of health? No matter what he does currently with abortion, contraception, gender theory etc no matter how flattened he gets that curve with such evils, the population will still grow, he also does not define what the correct population is and whether or not he thinks we have exceeded it yet, this all leads to only one logical conclusion... culling the herd. Also if these new Vaccines have an ADE side effect down the track, it will fit exactly what others have 'predicted' in regards to a 'natural' culling of the herd through a global pandemic that kills billions, now they can't just release something extremely deadly (a precursor they are relatively safe from they can though) for it cannot be controlled, risks getting themselves and all of humanity, but a controlled one through ADE side effects and thus enhanced viruses for those who've been primed for it with rushed experimental Vaccines, yup that'd work. That's why it doesn't matter much what brand, new strains, how many doses etc, just need needles in arms asap of synthetic mRNA technology. At this stage your putting your life in the hands of that very sick man who is made out to be a saint trusting experimental, rushed Vaccines with no long term results. Maybe it's not this one, but until it's been time tested to prove it's effectiveness and safety, your taking a massive and deadly gamble in my book. I would also rather not mess around with genetic engineering technology of synthetic mRNA. This is also why Christians are targets and so was Trump, for by attacking abortion, contraception and gender theory, we are attacking their chief means to reduced the worlds population, that my friend, is the end game, hence all those asleep at the wheel going along with and embracing heresy and evils within the Church and outside of it, will have their day of reckoning. The sinister lies of Marriage Equality, Reproductive Health, Gender Theory etc that society and heretics are buying into, all tools, which will accumulate into the end game. The devil knows how to reward his own, sadly, the naïve may suffer too.
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