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Post by pianistclare on Feb 28, 2017 14:09:46 GMT
OK, Ora, Sirach, and Tawny...others who know.... What, in your opinion is the best APP (for a phone) for the LOTH?
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Post by tawny on Feb 28, 2017 15:08:24 GMT
OK, Ora, Sirach, and Tawny...others who know.... What, in your opinion is the best APP (for a phone) for the LOTH? One of the best is: www.ebreviary.comThere's also: ibreviary.org from the apple app store
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Post by sirach on Feb 28, 2017 15:21:15 GMT
I suppose you may find it strange, but I don't have any phone apps. No ipads here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 15:43:50 GMT
I have the four volume set but I haven't cracked a book in over a year. I use IBreviary on my phone. It's actually easier to use than the hard bound and I can download a whole week at a time if I am going to be travelling. It works great on both my Droid and on my wife's iphone.
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Post by pianistclare on Feb 28, 2017 15:57:02 GMT
I just downloaded it to my Kindle, I'll let you know if I have questions!
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Post by oralabora on Feb 28, 2017 16:10:08 GMT
I rarely use an app for the LOTH but I second the good deacon, iBreviary is pretty good. I've caught the odd mistake on the French side (I use it in French), such as June 24th (St. John the Baptist) being ranked a feast instead of a solemnity, but otherwise it works great. Normally though I just carry my LOTH with me when I travel. I have the 4-volume set in French. However I use the two-year monastic lectionary so I either have to carry that with me, or more often, I just use the 1-year cycle when travelling and catch up with the two-year readings when I get back (or get a head start before leaving). At home though I mostly use for the day hours Les Heures Grégoriennes, which is the day hours noted for Gregorian chant, in Latin, with the French alongside. Chant in Latin (mantra), read in French (meditation).
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Post by upupandaway on Mar 22, 2017 18:21:47 GMT
Is there anyone here (or does anyone here know someone) who prays all* hours of the LOTH daily but is not canonically bound to do so? I imagine it's not common.
*assuming Prayer During the Day is one hour and not three (Terce, Sext, None)
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Post by oralabora on Mar 27, 2017 1:54:09 GMT
Is there anyone here (or does anyone here know someone) who prays all* hours of the LOTH daily but is not canonically bound to do so? I imagine it's not common. *assuming Prayer During the Day is one hour and not three (Terce, Sext, None)I do, most of the time. When I'm home, my schedule looks like this: 6 am Vigils (Office of Readings; note, I use the 2-year Monastic Lectionary instead of the one in the LOTH) 8 am Lauds 9:45 am Terce Noon Mid-day prayer 3 pm None 5 pm Vespers After dinner (usually around 8 pm, it varies), Compline. There is a happy coincidence to all this. We burn about 10-12 cords of firewood every winter to keep warm, and those hours (either just before or just after) are convenient times to stoke the stove, which I light at Vigils. If I didn't have the Hours, I'd probably forget to stoke the stove and when it dies out on a cold day it is NOT pleasant and it takes a while to get the house warm again). If I have to go out, I omit two small hours and move mid-day prayer to the slot that is most convenient (i.e. either before I leave at the hour of Terce, or after I get home at None). If I am away too long, I will pray it where I can off my iPhone. In summer, I slacken the schedule somewhat because I'm out more, and now that I'm retired that means pounding the pavement on my road bike: 5:30 am Matins (Office of Readings and Lauds combined as per the LOTH rubrics, using the shorter readings from the Monastic Lectionary as specified by the Rule of St. Benedict) Mid-day prayer at either the hour of Terce, Sext or None as per the activity of the day 5 pm Vespers After dinner Compline. Summer in the Labora household uses the same definition as at our abbey: from the Monday following the Octave of Easter to the feast of the Holy Cross inclusive (at the abbey, in summer they use the shorter reading for the second reading, and are dispensed from wearing the cowl due to the heat). When I travel, I bring my breviary with me and pray what I can. We are "active" travellers; we like to hike, bike, explore, etc., so often I have to pare it down to Matins (combined OOR and Lauds) and Vespers. I followed much the same schedule when I worked. I worked 2 days a week from home; for the rest I commuted 100 km to Montreal each way. On the city days, I would only do one mid-day hour. I forgot to mention, when I am praying the Hours from home, I usually do it all in Gregorian chant Gregorian chant is my drug of choice for soothing the savage beast... if I didn't do it, the transition into retirement would have driven me absolutely bonkers! You can say the Hours is my new "job". I have plenty of time, within that schedule, to do the stuff I need/like to do. I work one day a week at the abbey's library, and when I do, I join their Offices for Terce, Mass, Sext+None (combined in one hour) and Vespers but they use a monastic schema, not the LOTH.
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Post by pianistclare on Mar 27, 2017 2:10:56 GMT
I'm tired just thinking about it. You are one great person Ora.
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Post by oralabora on Mar 27, 2017 2:41:24 GMT
I'm tired just thinking about it. You are one great person Ora. Actually I'm not. I'm a terrible Christian, a big hypocrite like many Christians. I talk the talk but stumble all the time when trying to walk the walk. You wouldn't want to be my confessor I need all that LOTH stuff to keep me out of trouble... as a monk told me once, "I'm not a monk because I am a good Christian; I am a monk because I'm a very poor Christian and without lots of prayer, and the support of the community, I wouldn't be able to remain Christian".
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Post by upupandaway on Mar 27, 2017 18:11:04 GMT
Thanks for your response, Ora. I was hoping there would be at least one person who said yes to my question, as my pastor insists such people don't exist. This opinion led us to a massive conflict that is now water long gone under the bridge so I won't go into detail about it, but I'm glad that I wasn't imagining that some non-bound persons, however few, do indeed pray the entirety of the LOTH on a regular basis. Thank you also for mentioning that you pray Compline after dinner. I have always thought Compline = bedtime, but I generally don't "go to bed"—I fall asleep spontaneously and spend the night wherever I collapse. It's completely unpredictable. I'm often down for the count well before whatever time I intended to go to sleep and thus miss praying Compline...but if I make it a habit to do so right after dinner, I may have a better chance at achieving regularity. I'm struggling on the path to holiness, too. Praying for you, brother
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Post by oralabora on Mar 27, 2017 20:12:40 GMT
The monks pray Compline after recreation, which is just after dinner. Then Grand Silence, but not necessarily bed right away! Some read, some write correspondance, etc.
I know of at least one other oblate who does like me. I'm sure there are more!
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Post by oralabora on Mar 28, 2017 0:08:32 GMT
I should add, if I don't pray Compline right after dinner, I'll also pass out before I can pray it (though generally in bed!)
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Post by upupandaway on Mar 28, 2017 11:07:39 GMT
Compline prayed after dinner last night. Like a boss TBH, I don't know why I didn't think of this myself. On retreat chez les bénédictins we pray Compline at 8:00pm, and I know the monks don't just hit the hay afterwards... Thanks again, Ora!
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Post by oralabora on Mar 28, 2017 13:11:16 GMT
You're welcome! 7:45 pm at our abbey except on Saturday evening when it is 8 pm because the monks have a brief rehearsal of the proper chants of the upcoming week.
Most hit the hay around 9 or 9:30, a few hang on until 10. They're up at 4:45 am for Vigils at 5.
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